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Mark DiMonte
01-10-2003, 11:52 AM
I have finally drawn up the plans for my Avro Arrow .45 pusher airplane. I am selling them for $30.00 Can plus postage. I am also working on a decal set to make the Rl 205 version. You can see the model at greathobbies customer gallery. E-mail me at marco.dimonte@tcdsb.org for some pics or some video clips of flightand /or fo a set of plans. MAD out. :D

jjordan
01-11-2003, 10:17 PM
can this plane be built with a ducted fan? If so what size df engine would it need?

Thanks

nony
01-12-2003, 12:26 AM
It looks interesting enough to ask a bunch of questions:
-wing span?
-weight?
-do the wings come off for transportation?

Thanks......

Mark DiMonte
01-12-2003, 01:42 PM
In answer to some of the questions above, I purchassed two 4 inch fans and motors and found that they could work but a buldge woud have to made into the fuselage to shoehorn them in. Not worth the effort and scale would then go out the window. However, a new 7 pound turbine would fit with lots of room to spare . I am contemplating this because of the length of the ducting required makes the df inefficient and cheater holes would have to be cut out. Scaling the whole plane up to size would work and because I drew the plans in cad, I could make them as big or as small as you want. The only thing that would get messed up is material thicknesses. The stats on the plane are as follows: Wingspan, 37.5 inches, Fuse length 53.5 inches. all up weight if built as designed is just over 6 lbs. I have used both a thunder tiger and os .45 with the standard muffler but plan to add a pipe. I hope this gets you up to speed. Wing comes off and is held by pegs at the front and two 1/4 20 threaded screws

Mark DiMonte
02-17-2003, 12:50 PM
I will be plotting a set of 1/12 drawings which puts the wingspan at arround 50 inches and the length at arround 80 in. The material thickness will be off but formers, ribs and outlines will be correct. Anybody interested? MAD out.

JimMoss
02-17-2003, 10:59 PM
How big was the original?

Jim Moss :)

s.millington
02-17-2003, 11:30 PM
Hi Mark:

Your Arrow looks very good. I sent you an email on the pictures and clips. Would that be $30.00 for the 40 plans and decals,...or? How many sheets?

What would you be asking for the 1/12 scale plans?

Cheers,

darn chellspecker :?

s.millington
02-18-2003, 12:34 AM
Mark:

Just found your $5.00 price for the decal set. Sorry :?

Cheers,

Mark DiMonte
02-18-2003, 12:03 PM
Jim, The original has a 37.5 in. wingspan and is 53in. long. It is powered by a .45 size pusher.

JimMoss
02-18-2003, 04:10 PM
60 engine for the bigger one ?

Jim Moss :)

PS Just noticed the size of the smaller plane in a previous post sorry. :?
First thing to go is the sight. :wink:

Chris Cann
02-18-2003, 04:19 PM
Nice Plane! Mark!

flysrc
02-19-2003, 09:06 PM
I'd be interested in a set of plans in a .60 size as well. NICE plane as well. Is the set of plans that are available now the same in the picture in this thread. Level of difficulty would be?
Dave W.

Mark DiMonte
02-20-2003, 07:34 AM
Dave, What I am doing for the 60 size is scaling the autocad file up to 1/12. So the answer is yes. The outlines, formers, and ribs will all be perfect but the material thicknesses would be off. In other words, 1/4 by 1/4 wing spars would now print at 1.3 times the size( .325 inches) this is not a problem if you know this from the start. All you have to do is make sure you make the proper allowances for the materials. In future, I might consider editing the drawing for all the thicknesses but that involves basically redrawing the whole plane. I can plot the drawings in a 60 size but they will cost more. I am charged by the foot by the printer and I would have to re-arrange the plans to fit on the paper. I think $ 50.00 Can for the sixty size will cover the cost of the plot as well as two decal sheets( one is not enough for this scale.) I never thought of making it bigger but I have a YS 60 and a pipe in my basement that just might make it's way into a seccond Arrow. Just as a note. I am in the process of arranging for a 1/5 set of plans. Somone is planning a twin turbine and wants a set. YIKES. E-mail with how you want me to proceed. MAD out.

flysrc
02-20-2003, 07:01 PM
I think at present I will stick with the .40 since I have an 0s 46 fx on the shelf with a hatori pipe. Canopy and nose cone plastic, carved or glassed. what is the building level and how does it compare with the average sport airplane. I know, too many questions. Can I pick a set up at a hobby store or direct. Will have to be a next winters project but will get built.
Dave.W.

Mark DiMonte
02-21-2003, 08:12 AM
Hi Dave, the canopy is a standard sig 10 inch but you use the rear section facing forward. The nose cone was carved out of blue foam and glassed. The tail cones were glassed over a plastic cup. A good plastic cup could just be painted and used as well. The rest of the plane is all built up balsa and light ply. It is a little more involved than building a kit. There is some fitting involved bit it is pretty straight forward. The wing halves are built on a flat surface and joined. The fuse is basically a box with a cylinder attached to the front. If you have built kits before. you shoul not have a problem. With that in mind, I am presently trying to put a kit together through a laser cutting company. I am trying to get a cost figured out and will post that info when I get it. As far as picking up the plans, I presently have the plans at two Hobby stores in the Toronto area. A&J Hobbies in Unionville, and Pinnacle Hobbies in Markham. I am going to get in touch with Ideal in Barrie to see if they would like to stock it as well. This project is quickly turning into a full time job. I have been mailing them all over the country as well. One is going to SK today.

Mark DiMonte
05-21-2003, 12:27 PM
Retracts have been added to my Avro Arrow. It looks great in the air and increases the speed signifigantly. I will be posting the changes needed to install the retracts on my website at www.babydecor.ca/rcavroarrow/. You can also watch some video clips of flight there. :lol:

Terry Gauvin
05-21-2003, 12:31 PM
Mark, you left out the "o" in arrow in your link. Good looking airplane.

Mark DiMonte
05-21-2003, 07:58 PM
Thanks Terry. It is all fixed up. MAD out.

Marty C
05-22-2003, 09:16 PM
Hi Mark, I would also be very interested in the larger set of 1/5 Arrow plans... What are the specs for this one??? Put me down for a set of 1/5 plans as well...

Cheers-

Mark DiMonte
05-23-2003, 07:08 AM
Marty, the 60 size has a 50 inch wingspan and is 73 inches long. Please be aware that it is a simply a scaled up version of the .45 so material thicknesses will be off. I have checked the drawing and what I have found is all you have to do is increase each of the sheeting thicknesses of the sheeting by one step. In other words, 1/16 sheeting would be increased to 3/32. and 3/32 would now be 1/8. This puts all materials at about the right size for a 60 size plane. Also. the 1/4 by 1/4 inch spars will plot larger on the plans but you can and should use 1/4 in. spars where noted as the prototype was over built anyway. All formers and ribs are the proper size so it should not be that difficult. The plans are two sheets as well as two decal sheets for the RL 205 version. This increases the plans cost to $50.00 plus shipping. I see you are in Bellville. I will be fishing in the bay of Quinte next weekend. Perhaps we could meet somewhere and you could save the shipping. Let me know if you are interested and I will prepare a set of plans and decals. :lol: MAD out.