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05-12-2004, 06:56 PM
ok i give, has anyone managed to find a place in ontario that sells american gutter pipe?? if not how are canadians managing to make spadets????
05-12-2004, 08:03 PM
I have a friend in the US that have asked me to send him Cdn gutter pipe because it's thinner. Any reason you want the US version? Millwork in Ontario sells the stuff
05-13-2004, 05:17 AM
only because the plans for the spadet ask for american pipe.
05-13-2004, 05:32 AM
I built mine with canadian gutter pipe. I just compensated in the plans.
05-13-2004, 01:45 PM
looks like thats what i am gonna do. I wanted to follow the plans for my first build but i guess i should just git'erdone eh?
05-13-2004, 02:34 PM
Have 25 pieces left of 40" section of Amertican 2 1/2" pipe , complete with with 4 yardsticks. This is the pipe for a Debonair fuse Price is $6.00 unit for pipe and yardsticks.
Problem is you have to pick up, as the shipping costs would be to heavy. I can deliver to Owen Sound area.
05-14-2004, 07:55 AM
Dont have a scale, but would be $15-20 to ship mail as the length is 40", however if you want 3 units (18.00) I can send to St Catharines in about 3 weeks with my son in law and you can P/U there. The US downpipe is really hard to find in the USA . I did every hardware in Ocala Florida . Had to order and buy 10 pieces at True Value Hardware. Cost was $8.95 US $ a 10' piece. Suggest you talk to your friends at your local club and order a few more,The yardsticks are also hard to find and expensive Had to buy 100 pieces to get a price.
05-17-2004, 06:31 PM
I've been asked by US friends for Canadian downspout as well. I think the wall is thinner, so it reduces the weight. Canadian Tire. $10
05-17-2004, 07:01 PM
Yeah Canadian pipe is everywhere, i am gonna try that first. I was all hooked up on following the plans for the first one i try to build, then experiment. Guess that just aint the SPAD way anyways eh?
04-16-2008, 05:43 PM
what stores in Ontario sell the 2.5" downspout
04-16-2008, 07:29 PM
Truman, I don't know of any. I suggest you try the smaller stuff, available mainly at Home Hardware (if they don't have it in stock, they'll order it for you). It isn't much off of the American stuff, and it is actually preferred for most applications.
04-17-2008, 07:13 PM
I went to at least three home hardware stores today and can't find it yet I just missed Rona the guy locked up as I pulled in sh#$%
04-17-2008, 08:07 PM
Bummer. If you go to the help desk at Home Hardware, they should be able to order it no problem. Ask for plain (not ridged) white (or brown) PVC downspout, they should be able to pull it up on the computer.
04-17-2008, 09:23 PM
If your looking for the square "Canadian" down spout sometimes referred to as "Contemporary" style,Home Hardware was one of the few places I was able to find it in the past.The rest of the plastic down spouts on the market seem to try and imitate the appearance of conventional aluminum eavestroughing parts that have corrugated sides.Much easier working with the totally square Canadian stuff when it comes to mounting gear and it is also much more ridgid as well compared to the other.The corrugated stuff seems very wibilly wobbily when you squeeze it.Home Depot and Canadian Tire only carried the corrugated wall type when I was last there.Both will work fine I'm sure.What ever floats yer boat!
04-17-2008, 10:21 PM
The company that makes the square "Canadian" downspout is a company called GSW and it is marketed under the name of "TuffFlo".You are looking for part number T0583 when you inquire.It measures 2 1/2" x 2 1/2".Like Ben mentioned,it comes in either white or brown and is referred to as "Contemporary" style.Not to be confused with the other style which is corrugated and is refferred to as "Traditional" style.Make sure you are asking for the right type when inquiring.I found a length of "Canadian" downspout in my shop and it still had the manufacturers sticker on it.It is indeed a made in Canada product and I found it at my local Home Hardware store(not even a Home Buildall Centre).Should sell for some where around $10 for a 10ft. length.
04-18-2008, 03:34 AM
all I know is if I find some I will buy 3 or 4 lenths of it so I don't have to find it again I would eventually like to build a dogfighter as well maby a couple
thank you for all of the help
04-18-2008, 03:37 AM
and thank you turbobeaver that info will certainly help when I go looking
05-07-2008, 12:31 AM
By all means us CDN pipe. Back when the 2 boys form Wichita started the original spad sight, I joined the team. I couldn't figure out why their planes weighed so much, but it turned out to be due to the very heavy walls on their pipe.
: Theirs is stronger, but if you want a strong and lightweight wipe, use houshold insulation foam (blue or pink) with 4mm or 3mm coroplast wrapped around it.
: I've built a number of spads with this method and only joint the last seam with tuck tape - no glue. I've driven a 2 3/4 pound size spad driven by a piped .25 Invine straight into the ground at over 70mph without damage to the fuse or the 2mm wing - only the prop. Plane stopped at the wind root.
: Just a suggestion from a 10 year spad builder- actually I don't remember when I started. I do know there were less than 10 guys building spads in the US and no others in Canada.
: The designs today are much more complex than when I was involved, that's for sure. I did manage to build a Neuport and a Dridecker, though - got to be 8 years ago.
; I have a plane here, minus the wing, that was built by Colon McGinnis fo Witchita, one of the originators of Spads, along with Dean Tuinstra. I won the plane in a constest run through their second spad site, so they mailed it to me. The fuse is made of the US spout of course and it is bloody heavy. Stick with the home grown- or use coro and foam for a stronger, lighter fuse yet. Just make the inside diamter to fit the firewalls you're using.
: Is eyeryone using UHMW (HDPE) or wood these days. 3/8" UHMW rocks for all sizes up to .50, then I use 1/2" for all larger engines up to .120's. Firewalls and engine mounts as well.
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