Engines

[kersplat]

Anyone out there got any control line engines to sell?

[AJCoholic]

Jim what are you after? Old, new or???

[kersplat]

Whatya got Andrew in the new line. Better yet mabe you can give a list? I have to spend my income tax return on something. My McCoys I'm trying not to use If I can avoid it.

[AJCoholic]

ACtually not too much but if you are looking for something in particular sometimes I can find it :)

[kersplat]

What I would really like to find is anything from the McCoy Series 21. Ya know .19, .29, .35, .40. They were the dykes ring design. I,ve tried on *bay but I always miss the bus. I'm a collector also, 'cause engines are cool 8). Um, I am partial to the OS FP .35 and .40 as well. When they had iron pistons and steel sleeves. Can you help? I would be greatful. I want to get my two boys into U-Key. I'm looking for engines with a robust design that'll withstand a few minor dorks into the planet.

Thank you very much for your help

[ModelBuilder]

Anyone out there got any control line engines to sell?

Great Hobbies has the venerable Fox .35 for $89 cdn as well as the 50" span Nobler for $94 cdn. These are fantastic products at great prices. This is also an ageless classic combination that commands respect at an circle.

[JoeAverage]

What I would really like to find is anything from the McCoy Series 21. Ya know .19, .29, .35, .40. They were the dykes ring design. I,ve tried on *bay but I always miss the bus. I'm a collector also, 'cause engines are cool 8). Um, I am partial to the OS FP .35 and .40 as well. When they had iron pistons and steel sleeves. Can you help? I would be greatful. I want to get my two boys into U-Key. I'm looking for engines with a robust design that'll withstand a few minor dorks into the planet.

Thank you very much for your help

The OS FP series are indeed excellent CL Stunt engines. The venturi and needle valve assemblies are easily acquired still. I just bought some through Skycraft in Burlington last month. They stock some but call first. Great Hobbies carries tounge mufflers and most of Brodaks entire catalogue of items for that matter. The FP's are still relatively easy to find and the conversion parts will cost about $30. Enya of course lends themslves well to CL and surprisingly MRC Altech out of New Jersey still sells parts for the older .29's and .35's. I just bought some from them the other day. Phone #(732)225-6144. For the round inlet .29 and .35 Model V you will need to order the .45 size spray bar and shim the inlet end with a nylon washer. The Enya parts are a fraction of the cost of the OS. Go directly to MRC for Enya parts and specify USPS or else they will come UPS and it will cost you $40 at the door to get the item you already paid postage on.

John Brodak acquired the rights from Carl Goldberg Models to produce all of the old favourite profile models. All should be available from Great Hobbies soon. The Buster is now $48 The Shoestring and others will follow.

Here's a pic of the Nobler "Classic" and a top performer. They had the aerodynamics of these models perfected years ago. Todays technology has now provided us with some awesome engines to match to these beautiful airframes although the Fox, Enya, McCoy and OS are still all you really need. Brodak make a CL dedicated .40 that is great.

Control line is a marvelous opportunity to develop building and flying skills. If you have your own flying site, insurance like (MAAC) is not required although I encourage all to have it for other reasons. It is a far more afordable than RC. Most importantly it is a lot of fun. More than you would know if you have not experienced it. Start off with an .049 size model. Used this stuff is cheap. Once you can fly a little one around smoothly and do the odd loop and wingover you can go to a larger model and they will seem easier to fly than the lttle ones.

[AJCoholic]

What I would really like to find is anything from the McCoy Series 21. Ya know .19, .29, .35, .40. They were the dykes ring design. I,ve tried on *bay but I always miss the bus. I'm a collector also, 'cause engines are cool 8). Um, I am partial to the OS FP .35 and .40 as well. When they had iron pistons and steel sleeves. Can you help? I would be greatful. I want to get my two boys into U-Key. I'm looking for engines with a robust design that'll withstand a few minor dorks into the planet.

Thank you very much for your help

Jim,
I have a used OS 35 in my parts box (I think) that needs a rod I was going to make opne up some day. It is otherwise OK if memory serves me right. I would send you it for your boy for free. Let me look and get back to you.

The series 21's were the "ugly" square ones were they not? If I come across any I will send them to you... I cant get by the squared cases myself ;) :)

[kersplat]

I think I have a junked OS.35 that has a good rod. Sounds good. I'll send you your cost in postage Andrew. My boy thanks you. He will rebuild it with my guidance, My little gear head. They McCoys, yeah they had square cases. A little ugly but my series 21 .40 was a tank untill it got intimate with the Planet Earth. :cry:

[AJCoholic]

Jim,
I found a near complete OS 30 (sorry thought it was a 35) with an iron/steel piston and liner, and also what I believe is an OS 35 piston cylinder set (aluminum piston, dyles ring).

You can have the parts - just send me your mailing address and I will send them out, definitley got the workings of putting a decent CL motor together!

Andrew

[kersplat]

Thank you very much. :D :D :D It's, Jim West
194 Reid St.
Trenton, ON.
K8V-5W3

[TLyttle]

Jim, have a look at diesels; they are cheap, powerful, and much quieter. I build my own fuel from locally-available ingredients, as there isn't a hobby shop within 80 miles of here. Many people who have one or two diesels in their junkbox weren't able to get them to run right, simply because they didn't understand them; hence the bad names they were/are called.

I still have the first PAW that I bought, a PAW19. Every time I run it, it runs better than the last, and withstands some severe punishment. PAW has been building engines for ~50 years now, so parts (should you ever need them! :shock: ) are everywhere. In Canada, we have a tendency to follow the US, ie glow engines, but I prefer the diesels if for no other reason that spare glow plugs, batteries, gallons of fuel, etc are not necessary; I show up at the field with a squirt bottle and a pint can and fly all afternoon.

I have built Ringmasters etc and powered them with the PAW19 on 52' lines, and enjoyed every minute. At one time, I had an old Eta Elite T/R engine, and would outpull most 35s and only need a 1oz or 2oz fuel tank.

Something to think about...

[LessGravity]

Hi Ty, saw your reply about the PAW .19. I have one too. Where do you
get your diesel fuel ? Finding it in Ontario is like finding gold. I made some using kerosene, castor and ignition spray containg ether - what a pain.

[TLyttle]

Yup, that's what it takes alright, but I use starting fluid instead of ignition spray for the ether. Even that is a bit of a problem because not all start fluid has the same ether content. I experiment with fluids if I get the chance, but my basic local stuff is ~50% ether, 50% kerosene (which you need anyway. That said, I simply have no choice because the closest hobby shop is 80 miles away; too far to go for fuel!

Besides, I have enjoyed the low cost of my home brew for many years now. It is not only cheaper to build than commercial glow fuel, but I go through far less of it, cheaper still.

My basic mix is 70% kerosene, 15% mineral oil (30wt non-detergent) 15% castor, and then I add ether until the fuel works well (usually ~10-15%). "Works well" hs to do with the size of engine I am running, ie the PAW80s like a bit more ether than the 19. In order to smooth out the mix, I add ~2% amyl substitute in the form of off-the-shelf diesel ignition improver (watch that stuff, it can wind you up!)


I use to collect diesels, had a couple of hundred at one point, not many left now. The ones I do have will be sold by my widow!

[Ken Currell]

Hi there

Sorry guys posted this one by accident

Thanks

[Ken Currell]

Hi there

There is another mix that uses smokeless lamp oil which doesn't smell at all. The smell of kerosene is the only thing that I don't like about diesels.

Maybe I should say that my wife doesn't like it.

Cheers

[Ken Currell]

Hi

I have a couple of McCoy 19 red heads and maybe a 29 and 35 red head too.

I think I also have an old OS Max 20.

I have several new but old Super Tiger 19 ball bearing engines that have been converted to RC.

Cheers