Looking for input and advice

[skyad]

I was looking at getting a gasser for next season started looking towards bipes I enjoy slow flying and 3d started off looking at 50 size bipes and yaks then I fell in love with this http://www.somenzini.com/html/aircraft/python.html .A little backround fly nitro heli (not bad)fly a twist 46 (crashed one) fly a u-can do saito 100(crashed twice) just hard landing and I've had the chance to fly 3 50cc planes (the basics not my planes). I feel I could fly this in circuits all day even some mild 3d.Looks well designed video show some nice flying .AM I NUTS??

SERVOS looling at 6X 5955 plus 1x8711 power supply ??? 2mpi6v with 2 2600 lithium ions or go smart fly system???

Ignition How many mah is used per flight ????

futaba setup 9c super and 148 or 149 rx have to but rx still

pipes or cans (no noise restriction here )but like the look of cans and like the weight of pipes???

Any input to either confuse me more or set me on a better track is welcome.


Also has anyone had a plane shipped in from the states by a freight company is so how due you go about clearing it thru customs .do I have to use a broker or can it be shipped to a customs warehouse for pickup??

[marc morin]

Glad to see your pondering the idea of gas planes .This year 3 manufactures have come out with bipes with round cowls,Aero-works has a real eye catcher ,and also Kange has a bipe in the 50cc class and of course Quique's bipe .Decisions Decisions :? After seeing you fly I have no doubt you can handle this type of plane :) As for your proposed radio set up over kill you are using 50% hardware for a 25% plane lets keep it simple good digital metal gear servos ,pcm receiver 2 lion batteries this will save you money so that you can put a smoke system on :) and really put on a show.I haven't seen these planes fly but from this design of plane real slow flying is not ther forte the wing profile is symetrical made for aerobatics not flat bottom ,which means power on all the way till just before the wheels touch ther is a lot of drag with 2 wings and a big round cowl.As they say once you've been to gas there is no going back.

[sarawnty]

Be carefull with the servos you use. I have this plane. The reason why 8611's, 8711's or Hitec 5955's are recommended in the manual, is due to 1-1/2" servo arms and extreme throws on high rates. Servos like the Hitec 5945 would have too much flex and may cause flutter. For this kind of plane I would follow the recommendations laid out in the manual.
Steve
PS. I haven't flown mine yet but if you watch the videos, this plane is very stable at slow 3D.

[scaleguy]

Marc,

The QQ Python is a 100cc airframe not a 50cc so the larger servos and stuff are a must as Steve says.

[marc morin]

:oops: Your right i seen 50cc bipe did not realize the Quique was 100cc then by all means get the big servos and power expanders.

[scaleguy]

:oops: Your right i seen 50cc bipe did not realize the Quique was 100cc then by all means get the big servos and power expanders.
No biggie. :D :D

[hillmanr2]

:oops: Your right i seen 50cc bipe did not realize the Quique was 100cc then by all means get the big servos and power expanders.
Bigger is better by so far, if you have the money, go to 100cc or bigger. Saying that, if you don't have the money 50cc is still good.
If you do have the money go with the 5955's for sure, they can be used in the next one. At this point you want to be looking at li-ions for battery power.
Fromenco puts out a good product but it is not nearly as advanced as the duralite stuff especially if you go with a powerbox. http://www.crcproducts.ca/

IMHO canister mufflers are the only responsible choice. The downside is expense but the upside is more power and a greatly reduced noise pollution output. Gassers on stock mufflers are loud and crackly, and some people (neighbors) find them annoying. The lower frequency of a gasser travels much farther than the relatively high frequency of 2 stroke glow.

QQ's company puts out a fantastic product, they are top notch to deal with.
CRC products has a relationship with QQ's aircraft so they can may be able to help you out a great deal. Call the number on the above site and ask for Mark, he will give the facts.

How many flights depends on the battery and motor. I have a 3w 106 QS (beast of the sky) on a 2400 li-ion and I can fly about 10 flights on a charge.

As far as being nuts?, perhaps, but you are not alone. Remember once you go big, you will never ever go back so beware.

Your 9c is a fantastic choice of radio. From what I have learned, a power box and programmable servos(hitec) are the bomb! You do not have to compromise on matching and throw, you can have an absolutely perfect setup out of the gate.

These are my opinions on a top shelf plane. I always give advice to match what I would do only. I prefer to have fewer planes with the best equipment.

[YoungestPiperCub]

I am in a very similar boat except i wanted it more for precision. I ended up getting a 50cc extra 260 from aeroworks and it is EXCELLENT!!! they also make a 50cc bipe as well and if it is half a good as the extra you will be blown away. Quique or aeroworks both make staggering airplanes and either are extremly well built. If you want to stick to 50cc and a bipe IMO the aeroworks bipe is the way to go.

Good Luck and I would also agree its WAYYYY better to overkill your servos then underkill them and have the airplane buzz itself to pieces

Cheers

[skyad]

thks for all the input so far am still tossing it up between aw 50 bip and qq 100 bipe .I am looking at cans if possible I like quite planes myself.going 5955 either way I can also use then some where and a programmer thinking a123 batteries no reg and sf power expander then 2 switches OR 2X 5200 l-ion a turbo reg sf and the power expander sport and 1 fail safe switch ignition 2600 with regulated switch and optical cut off switch .By the battery set up you can see I'm leaning towards the qq 100cc pitts .

I did email crc for price package on qq they suggest I go direct from qq ohio.
Will probably get servos and programmer thru great hob bateries thru gailvin if I go luthim or gh for a123 if in stock and the sf stuff either direct orSin City if they have all the items there prices are cheaper than direct from smart fly ??
going flying tommorrow ski on lake see if I can thin out the fleet (honey I crashed I guess I'll need a new plane for spring lol)

P.S. performance is offering there 37% ultimate at a great price but all those flying wires.

Looking at about 4200 to 4500 when the dust settles ??

Still lots of time before we see green grass again. Darrell

[SJrcflyer]

Ok, heres my opinion on it and take if for what it is. Russ (hillmanr) had some great points but I'm going to take a slightly different one. Bigger DOES fly better, NO question. I'm stuck with 50cc because of transportation and financial reasons but thats just my case. To jump from glow to 100cc is a damn big gap. Not saying no one has done it, and people will certainly continue to do so, if they have the money. That being said, setting up a GS plane as compared to a 90size, while similar, is a massive difference. This being from a safety standpoint alone (not too often you'll here me say that). If you have lots of experience in larger glow stuff, and have lots of people around you to help you out then maybe going to 100cc won't be that bad. Chances are you will want to go bigger after getting a 50cc but I think its a good way to get into gassers and finding out the way to properly setup a GS plane.

This again is my opinion, don't listen to it if you don't want, lol.

Chris

[hillmanr2]

Ok, heres my opinion on it and take if for what it is. Russ (hillmanr) had some great points but I'm going to take a slightly different one. Bigger DOES fly better, NO question. I'm stuck with 50cc because of transportation and financial reasons but thats just my case. To jump from glow to 100cc is a d**n big gap. Not saying no one has done it, and people will certainly continue to do so, if they have the money. That being said, setting up a GS plane as compared to a 90size, while similar, is a massive difference. This being from a safety standpoint alone (not too often you'll here me say that). If you have lots of experience in larger glow stuff, and have lots of people around you to help you out then maybe going to 100cc won't be that bad. Chances are you will want to go bigger after getting a 50cc but I think its a good way to get into gassers and finding out the way to properly setup a GS plane.

This again is my opinion, don't listen to it if you don't want, lol.

Chris
Chris brings up a very good point and you would be well advised to truly give this some thought.

[1THEPALMER]

Hi all, Crossing the Boarder with big stuff can really add $$$. Living close most of us ship just to the wall (outfit called US postal address) Then drive over and pick up. There is no duty on model stuff but UPS will ding you huge on brokerage plus GST/PST then charge transport from boarder to you on top of the freight charged in the US. Just over $100.00 more on a 72" Extra in one box plus the $65.00 US for freight charged to get from Texas to me. Yes $365.00 turned into $500.00 ++ real fast. Ended up I would have been better off going through Great Hobbies for an Aeroworks plane.