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06-19-2021 11:50 AM
Keyrigger
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

Yes, a few days ago. I wished I could have met him but that will never be. It's still my go-to helicopter every time I go flying. RIP Dieter.

Don
06-19-2021 10:58 AM
Danker16
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

i heard buddy passed away. rip
07-29-2020 06:33 AM
athol
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

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Hey all:

There are some of you that remember back in the early days of helicopter flying, a little helicopter from Germany called the Heli-Baby. It was manufactured by Dieter Schluter and was part of a small line of helicopters that included names like the Heli-Boy, Mini-Boy, and Champion. These were the early days of flying helicopter models that had no gyros, sometimes cantankerous belts that were round, not toothed, and radios that were nothing more than bare bones transmitters with no reversing of the servo direction on the transmitter like we got a couple of years later. You either bought expensive and hard to find reverse servos (if they even made them for your type) or did your own home rewiring.

I digress.

The Heli-Baby was my first helicopter back in the late 70's. It had a very good Webra 40 for a power plant and that worked great to the day I sold the helicopter. The blades were wood with plastic covering and some nylon doublers for the root of the blade. Balancing was sometimes a chore and in those days, there were precious few that even attempted a helicopter, but back then, I was young and foolish with money, lol. In those days, the local top store for me was TP Hobbies on Roncesvalles Ave., just above Queen St., close to St. Joseph's Hospital.

Cecil Tate was a wealth of information and there was always a good amount of banter in the store that was so packed, you had to go outside to change your mind. He, his wife, and another couple (forgive me, I can't remember their names) ran the store and kept me in parts for many projects I had over the years. I was in there nearly every three or four days for blades and other assorted parts and the day he stopped carrying the parts was a sad day for me indeed.

A number of years ago, a fellow by the name of Gerd Guzicki started to produce a line of helicopters from his company called minicopter in Germany. He bought an old Heli-Baby with the intention of restoring it and found no parts anywhere to fix it. He started to measure the original parts and looked into their reproduction. Along the way, he found Dieter and bought the rights to reproduce the kit and had made at least two batches, one being an electric conversion. In the early days, the round, heat fused belt had been replaced by a toothed conversion but I had already sold mine and was busy in the film and photocopier industry, so RC flying was left in the closet for the better part of 30 years.

I left flying in around 1979 but raced RC sailboats for a couple of years before work and the lack of interest finally took over. Somewhere in 2010, I got the bright idea that I would see if the Heli-Baby was still around the RC world and sure enough, it was. I found that Gerd had developed an entire website dedicated to the original, reproduction, and the new e-Power version. It was there I noticed that kits had been produced and that was the spark to get another one to finally master it. I tried an email to Gerd but somewhere, it was lost in the netherworld and I ended up buying an Align 550EFL V2.

Fast forward to last year at the Fall Classic in Riverview, FL, where I hooked up again with Chuck Birt from Peak Aircraft. I had met him at IRCHA 2014 at the Scale tent celebrating with Vario on the winning of the speed helicopter competition by Miles Dunkel with his minicopter Diabolo S. While we were chatting in Florida about the older helicopters in the minicopter line, the subject of the Heli-Baby came up. He informed me that Gerd was hell-bent on producing a third run of Heli-Baby's and it should be out this year. I was all over that and said that the minute he heard a whisper, he was to get a hold of me. A few weeks ago, he posted on ScaleRCHelis.com that a new Heli-Baby was on the way. I knew that it was the message I was waiting for and none of the regulars there had any idea what the message was posted there for. I said it was for me and that my wish for a Heli-Baby had been answered.

Last week, IRCHA happened for the 26th time and Peak Aircraft and Chuck arrived with great new for me. The prototype was to land at Indianapolis and would be Fed-Ex'd to the AMA site. Well, customs, being what it is, held it up a bit so it made it there Friday morning and I was there for its unveiling. I wanted that one very badly but it was already promised to another flyer so I will have to wait for the production model. However, that could prove even better as I had a look at their new Triabolo Black and commented that an all black Heli-Baby would be the bee's knees. I am hoping.

The motor is specially made by Plettenberg to match the power output of the original Webra, about 1.1Hp, and is a small 570kv motor, about the size of an average 500 size helicopter motor. The prototype was setup with a Kontronic Koby 55, but was replaced with the Koby 90, which seems a bit overkill but then, this is not exactly the same helicopter as the original. Gone is the wire tail pitch mechanism and the pitch through the shaft setup for the tail blades. Also, gone is the 90 degree swash that was held in place by a conical spring and an arm that was mounted to the side frame on the left side. The fixed pitch is also a thing of the past and the boom is a much beefier setup.

The idea was to use the majority of parts from the Diabolo 550 so that it would be easy to maintain and have the potential for much more stable flight. The blades are 480mm, which is small, yet the helicopter is still a .30 size or today's 550 class. I am not sure what is the maximum blade size it will take but with a set of Switch 473's, it flew just great. Right out of the box, the helicopter was put into a full large loop and then a really wide barrel roll. They had had a few electronic issues setting it up but the wait until Saturday evening was well worth it. I will be doing a full build thread as soon as I get the model, which might be as soon as the first full week in September. I will be in Dalton at that time and if I am there with it, I will take pictures during the build and report back as soon as I land back here. I will be taking a complete set of servos, gyro, and building bits (wire ties, etc.) so that if it does arrive, I can try and get it airborne while I am there. I look forward to this arriving and will share the experience for all. Here are a couple of pictures of the prototype Heli-Baby at IRCHA 2015. Take care.

Don
Neat story. I had one in Cape Town South Africa and had a helluva time with it. Went through 2 sets of main rotor blades and 4 sets of tail rotor blades in 4 flights. Gave up and sold it. Remember it well!
12-14-2019 01:37 PM
Max
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

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Originally Posted by Keyrigger View Post
If some of you may remember a very recent ad in the for sale section, I cried myself to sleep that night as a very nice condition Heli-Baby, from the first year or two of production, came up for sale and was sold very rapidly. I really didn't have the room for it and need to get rid of a number of things taking up space in my tiny workroom. Well, I got a call last night about meeting up with a buddy of mine for coffee since he was going to be in the area after work.

Before we sat down to our coffees, he suggested that I accompany him to his car and have a look at a new project in the trunk. Here was the project and it was not for him but for me. I don't know that I will ever get it off the ground but I will install some servos to use it as a display. I may or may not get some vintage floats for it but who knows. I can't thank him enough. I think I might have something he and I can use in the event of a disaster so he can have it as a reserve. Take care.

Don

PS: The blades are attached to the flybar for transport and storage. They are all originals.
Hee hee. Warms my heart!
So glad that that heli found its "forever home"

Seems like the heli "fad" is not as dead as some people would lead you to believe. The heli community is alive and well in the GTA.
12-13-2019 10:23 PM
Keyrigger
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

If some of you may remember a very recent ad in the for sale section, I cried myself to sleep that night as a very nice condition Heli-Baby, from the first year or two of production, came up for sale and was sold very rapidly. I really didn't have the room for it and need to get rid of a number of things taking up space in my tiny workroom. Well, I got a call last night about meeting up with a buddy of mine for coffee since he was going to be in the area after work.

Before we sat down to our coffees, he suggested that I accompany him to his car and have a look at a new project in the trunk. Here was the project and it was not for him but for me. I don't know that I will ever get it off the ground but I will install some servos to use it as a display. I may or may not get some vintage floats for it but who knows. I can't thank him enough. I think I might have something he and I can use in the event of a disaster so he can have it as a reserve. Take care.

Don

PS: The blades are attached to the flybar for transport and storage. They are all originals.
11-03-2019 11:06 AM
Keyrigger
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

It's been a while and lots of flights have been made. I am well over 340 flights on the prototype and 525 flights on the production kit (three blade). I am settling down to restart building my MH-6 this winter, starting in December, and I needed to remove Bruce from the prototype for that project. I also thought that as much as I liked the pilot in the production helicopter, he needed to be replaced as I need him for a Jet Ranger project coming down the pipe (he's better sized to fit in a 700 size body).

I spent some time browsing the net and found that the ideal pilot figure is now quickly climbing in value and no longer on budget for the spot. I found the newest in the line and she is within my range. While I was in Florida, I found the perfect replacement for Bruce and that is a reproduction of the original 1964 vintage GI Joe, new in the box. I had to wait until I returned home to get the female figure, Lucy, and it was still in stock and not snapped up like the one I originally thought would go in.

Here are a few pictures that should give a few of you some chuckles and bring back memories for others. I had forgotten how badly articulated the original GI Joe was compared to Bruce before him. He needed three spots of Velcro plus the strap to hold him in. Lucy was also properly secured so that when I fly the heli through a loop, roll, or stall turn, she won't budge and inch. Have a good laugh.

Don
01-25-2019 05:29 PM
Keyrigger
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

A club member at Burlington brought in an old helicopter (I will research it later) and it was auctioned off to help another member's daughter get her first taste of helicopter setup. I know I'm going to be the one to get both through the steep learning curve of collective pitch but that will not be the one I will recommend they start with. Time will tell. Thanks.

Don
01-25-2019 02:01 PM
HAL9KPCM Awesome to see the classics kept alive.
01-25-2019 01:40 PM
Keyrigger
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

Well, a little over a year has gone by and my Heli-Babys are still in one piece. I have changed the landing gear arrangement a bit so I can have the water bucket on the same helicopter as the floats are on. I was recently at our Frozen Finger Fly and one of our club members took a shot of my prototype Heli-Baby NT with the floats installed. Even with the transmitter glove on, it was a very nice but frosty day. Bruce was not amused. Thanks to Geoff for the picture.

Don

Don
01-02-2017 12:11 PM
Keyrigger
Re: The Heli-Baby Revival

Here is a shot of the Heli-Baby after that very cool flight. I wished I had more time and more light, lol. Take care.

Don
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