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06-13-2010 10:22 AM
eastcoast78
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

yea same here.Spectrum are just worried now that this Cheaper version of their technology is cutting into their Market share.I would be as-well...lol
06-13-2010 10:14 AM
stegl
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

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Originally Posted by eastcoast78 View Post
hey ,has anyone seen this little Advertisement Spectrum has posted on there Page?
http://www.spektrumrc.com/Articles/A...ArticleID=2162

I'm thinking its in response too Hobby kings new copy

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...%28PREORDER%29

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...4Ghz_Receiver_


There was 2000 Pre-ordered as of last week,and now it says -20 stock ,so i guess they got a shipment and dispatched all of them.
I did order one lol to test in my Park fliers or something,I don't think i have the nerve too try in my Glow Plane.
Any one else got 1 ordered? Im thinking its going too be mid-summer at this rate too even get a Shipped email form HK lmao.
Checked the links and all seems cool to me . I don't know what the fuss is all about by Spektrum because all the adds said was that they are COMPATIBLE with Spektrum and at no time did I they insinuate that they WERE Spektrum products. Don't see any complaints about Berg, Hitec and other receivers being counterfeits when on 72 mhz . That's the way I see it !
06-13-2010 09:19 AM
Guest
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

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Originally Posted by fledgewing View Post
I know there is more than a few hundred guys that have learned that spektrum could have done a lot more R&D with carbon fuses .

I know of one 1500 $ euro wing that went it after about 3 months of perfect performance.

Want to lose faith in spektrum start using more expensive materials
My point is you take your chances with even the better companies

BTW If it where not for rc forums spectrum would still deny this

sent to me from spektrum


Attention Spektrum AR6250 Owners
AR6250 Product Recall
Horizon has received reports of customers losing RF link when using AR6250’s within certain environments. After close monitoring and testing, Horizon has detected isolated issues with AR6250’s used in carbon fiber applications or in products containing highly reflective material. In these applications, Horizon has found that RF link issues may result in loss of communications.

Horizon has performed an analysis of the AR6250 receiver and is in the process of testing a newly designed receiver.

All consumers who have AR6250’s are strongly encouraged to discontinue use and return these receivers to Horizon for a free upgrade, which should be available in August.

Please click here to initiate the service request and fill out the on-line form.

You may also initiate a service request by e-mailing the Horizon Product Support team. Please put “AR6250 Recall” in the subject line and include your shipping address and daytime phone number. Click here to e-mail your request to Horizon Product Support.

If you have any questions or would like to initiate a service request via telephone, please call our Product Support group at 1-877-504-0233.

For US and Canadian consumers, Horizon will pay for all ground shipping charges to and from our US service center. Customers outside the US and Canada should contact their retailer or local Spektrum distributor. Within Europe, please follow these links to our service centers in England or Germany. Australian consumers can follow this link.

We apologize for this inconvenience. Horizon disclaims all liability and warranties for any consumer failing to act upon this service advisory.
end [QUOTE}
Nice and for all those who have lost an aircraft due to this???????? You just had to know there would be no offer to compensate for your costs. Not that any of the others are any better.

"We discovered a fault with our product that may have cost the loss of a substantial cost outlay by our loyal customers. Sorry about your loss but if you fill out an online form and send in the offending part worth less than $100 we will fix/replace it with one that we should have originally sold you. As to your loss we apologize most profusely.” with much shaking of heads and wringing of hands.

Reminds me of that commercial with the kid collecting eggs and the guy pocketing them when he’s not looking. “Egg management fee.”
06-13-2010 12:45 AM
Tomahawk
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

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Originally Posted by orenda635 View Post
I'm not sure I'd trust these orange ones just yet. I'll wait for reviews first.
If you don't trust the orange coloured ones you could try one of the black 6 channel ones they just added to the site.

For foamy planes I am willing to try them. I was lucky and snagged two of them last night.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...dProduct=12586

Chris
06-12-2010 09:36 PM
orenda635
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

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Originally Posted by rome View Post
I'm with 4 Stripes, reasonable prices could probably eliminate copiers. Just like when the first plasma TV's came out only few could afford it. after few years and research and development is paid for, they all come down in prices. for example i was looking last week end at a 50" for less than a $1000 .
my 2 cents

cheers
I was thinking the same thing. Spektrum equipment hasn't gone down in price at all since I got my DX7. I was an early adopter so it must be about three or four years now. In some cases, they've actually gone up in price. There really isn't much to these receivers. A 2.4ghz chip runs under $10 for Wifi applications. These aren't sending broadband data.

I'm not sure I'd trust these orange ones just yet. I'll wait for reviews first. I can't see them being any worse than the 2.4ghz equipment that comes with a lot of RTF models though. Most of the so called "quality" brands are produced in the same factories. For example, Hobby King's ASP engines are just rebranded Magnums.

I don't think the LHS's realize how big of a threat these Hong Kong suppliers are. They claim their profit margins are razor thin, which I believe is true for some items but not everything they sell. Batteries, screws and hardware, tools; just general supplies and parts are way overpriced. I guess that's where they make there money, not on the model kits. One Futaba RX battery pack is $20 on average at the LHS. Costco sells a pack of AA rechargeables for $31.99. Futaba's is roughly double the price for the same capacity batteries. Sure you have to build them yourself but that doesn't cost $30.
06-12-2010 06:28 PM
RAMJET
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

I have to go along with the guys using the better quality stuff I would never cheap out just to save a coupple of bucks,where I have a problem is when it's the same stuff @ 1/4 or 1/10 the price(example turnigy 6 charger $15.00 same charger here $130) .who needs customer support when you can buy 1/2 dozen up front for the same price.Even if it was canadian made I would pay extra but many of these canadian suppliers are selling the same things made in china at a greatly inflated price, so in fact I am just paying someone to send my money out of the country when I could do that myself.For a decient paint job I would pay the extra to have it done right and support a canadian buisness ,but if china was the only place you could get a paint job and the canadian body shop was going to send my car to china for the paint I think I would just send it myself.Roger
06-12-2010 09:48 AM
fledgewing
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

I know there is more than a few hundred guys that have learned that spektrum could have done a lot more R&D with carbon fuses .

I know of one 1500 $ euro wing that went it after about 3 months of perfect performance.

Want to lose faith in spektrum start using more expensive materials
My point is you take your chances with even the better companies

BTW If it where not for rc forums spectrum would still deny this

sent to me from spektrum


Attention Spektrum AR6250 Owners
AR6250 Product Recall
Horizon has received reports of customers losing RF link when using AR6250’s within certain environments. After close monitoring and testing, Horizon has detected isolated issues with AR6250’s used in carbon fiber applications or in products containing highly reflective material. In these applications, Horizon has found that RF link issues may result in loss of communications.

Horizon has performed an analysis of the AR6250 receiver and is in the process of testing a newly designed receiver.

All consumers who have AR6250’s are strongly encouraged to discontinue use and return these receivers to Horizon for a free upgrade, which should be available in August.

Please click here to initiate the service request and fill out the on-line form.

You may also initiate a service request by e-mailing the Horizon Product Support team. Please put “AR6250 Recall” in the subject line and include your shipping address and daytime phone number. Click here to e-mail your request to Horizon Product Support.

If you have any questions or would like to initiate a service request via telephone, please call our Product Support group at 1-877-504-0233.

For US and Canadian consumers, Horizon will pay for all ground shipping charges to and from our US service center. Customers outside the US and Canada should contact their retailer or local Spektrum distributor. Within Europe, please follow these links to our service centers in England or Germany. Australian consumers can follow this link.

We apologize for this inconvenience. Horizon disclaims all liability and warranties for any consumer failing to act upon this service advisory.
end [QUOTE}
06-12-2010 09:41 AM
cf-drg
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

I try and buy North American and quality as much as I can.. But you have to put it in perspective, how much are you into a hobby or interest. On my bigger gassers I use Evolution/MVVS engines and brand name radio equipment (Airtronics/Futaba).. But on the small foam stuff (which I don't have that much interest in ) I use the HK stuff, I'm not going to invest a bunch of money into something that I'm not as Passionate for..
Another example is dirtbikes for me, I'm into it passionately so I buy higher end bikes (Husaberg). But does this mean I should go around and tell others not to buy the (cheap) Japanese ones, No.. For the guy that only gets out once a month or less, one of the big 4 Japanese bike is perfect for him/her. The same goes in this "Hobby" you pay for what you get and how interested you are in it...
06-12-2010 07:19 AM
rome
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

I'm with 4 Stripes, reasonable prices could probably eliminate copiers. Just like when the first plasma TV's came out only few could afford it. after few years and research and development is paid for, they all come down in prices. for example i was looking last week end at a 50" for less than a $1000 .
my 2 cents

cheers
06-11-2010 07:56 PM
R.Sonnel
Re: Counterfeit Spektrum Receivers

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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix View Post
I look at it this way, I own a paint shop, I paint cars and motorcycles. Every week I get people questioning why I want $3000 to paint their motorcycle when MAACO will paint a whole car for only $400. Many people can't see the quality difference, but in the end, when the MAACO's of this world have put guys like me out of business all you'll be able to get is crap without customer support.
Sure there is a big markup, there is on running shoes, jeans, everything. We still go to hockey games, movies, etc, and those cost you way more than they are worth, but yet so many are willing to take chances with their models by using copy products.
It really doesn't matter to me who buys what where, but I know when I do have a problem with a radio component, Horizon has always bent over backwards to correct it, HK will never do that. I've sent in servo's that were in crashes, receivers that were dropped, Horizon has never charged me anything outside of parts, and they don't always even charge me for those! I'll pay the extra to have the customer service when I need it.
Horizon has real support, people that actually know the product and can help you over the phone, those people require real wages, that means the product will cost more.
It scares me to think that asia has such a huge market share in manufacturing, what are we all going to do when china decides, "well, we build everything for the north American market, time to start charging huge dollars"... Then we'll really be screwed...
Just my 2 cents
I agree 100%. I had to deal with customer service a few times and well worth the extra money I had to pay compared to HK. Used a 2000mah Cheap battery on my 150 Twist, crash when battery failed. Bought new sayo's from GH. Everything is good again. When someone say's it's all made in China could be correct, but the name brand's are manafactured to higher standards. That I would bet money on!!
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