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| Beginners / Newbies Interested in getting in the hobby. Not sure where to start. Post your questions here and one of the RCCanada experts will be glad to help you out! |
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| 06-22-2011 11:23 AM | |
| Michael Hyatt |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 LOL, six of one, and half dozen of the other. Max does have some good points. I learned with the 4 channel wilga and never learned to use the rudder until I started flying gliders, lol. The HK cub is smaller, has 4 channels (ailerons, may or may not be a plus for a beginner, ????? .... with a good radio, the ailerons can be dialed back to inoperable). It also has more detail, so it may require more glue to put it back together after a crash. The HZ super is bigger with a lower wing loading, 3 channels which may or may not be a plus, anti-crash technology which may or may not be a plus ( I've seen a few guys crash after turning it off). One has a brushed and the other has a brushless motor. The HZ super is a true beginner, and the HK cub is slightly more advanced and reqiure a little more skill ...... either, with a little training can give you years of flying fun. Because of the brushless motor, 4 channels (making it far more maneuverable) and being cheap/thrifty, I'd go with the HK cub. But as Max says, it may not be your best choice. Yeah, we're a lot of help, lol, the final decision will be yours. |
| 06-22-2011 10:17 AM | |
| Max |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 I havent flown the HK cub so I cant comment on how well it is for a beginner. They dont post the all-up flying weight so it is hard to determine the wing loading. It does have a lot of detail, which to me says "more parts will break off during a mishap". Something you dont want for a starter plane. The SC is pretty dirable because there is not much there to break off. The other thing that makes me shy away from this as a starter plane is it is 4 channel. For a starter plane, having a plane that rolls (and usually quick) does not go well with a novice pilot. the SC has just rudder to turn it, so it is less likely to roll-over when the novice is heavy handed and over-controls the plane. Again, my 2C. Your Mileage May Vary. |
| 06-21-2011 11:11 PM | |
| evan |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 Thanks to you both. The reason I was leaning toward that type of plane was just because of other people's recommendations. To be honest, I currently prefer scale planes and I think the Cub is really cool. Max, Would there be any big disadvantages to going with the HobbyKing J3 Cub rather than the HobbyZone version? I noticed the one from HK has a brushless motor. |
| 06-21-2011 10:29 AM | |
| Max |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 Hi Evan. I have flown the AXN Floater jet, and others similar to it which would include the bixler. Personally, I find these planes a bit too fast for the beginner. They also have a tendency to pitch down when power is applied (especially in hand launch) because of the torsional moment the pod mounted motor applies. Power off, they glide pretty good, but still on the fast side for beginners. On a trainer scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the best and 1 is the worst, I would put these planes at around 5 for Joe average. If you are flying at a model club and have the help of an instructor, then these planes may rank a little higher. The only advantage they offer is they protect the prop in the event of a (mild) crash. Is there any particular reason why you want this particular design of model? For rank beginners who want a small foamy electric, I always recommend the Hobbyzone Supercub. On the same 1-10 scale, I rank it as a 9 http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Produ...ProdID=HBZ7380 As an instructor, it has proven itself a very effective and reliable learning platform. My only advice is to by a DSM2 radio separately (ie DX6i or DX7, DX8 radios) and buy the Bind-and-fly version, as opposed to the Ready to fly version that comes with a crappy 27mhz radio that you can only use for that plane. |
| 06-21-2011 09:33 AM | |
| Michael Hyatt |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 According to the specs, the micro rtf version has a "3-channel 2.4GHz DSM2 receiver", so it should work with a DSM2 transmitter. It's more suited to indoor flying. Indoor flying is not really appropriate for beginners. The larger sized versions are a better selection for beginners. The larger sizes are easier to see so you won't lose perspective as quickly, which allows you more time to perform slow maneuvers. You have to think of it as a large plane compared to a small plane, the small plane can run rings around the bigger plane. As a beginner, this is something you don't want. As an example, a small plane can turn 360 degrees in ten feet, a larger plane will turn 360 degrees in thirty feet ..... so, as you can see, this gives you a lot more time to react, which as a beginner is exactly what you want. |
| 06-21-2011 01:09 AM | |
| evan |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 Thanks Michael, I appreciate the input. Would the smaller ParkZone J-3 Cub Ultra Micro qualify even though it's so small? Do their bind and fly planes work with the newer DSMx transmitters? |
| 06-20-2011 09:58 PM | |
| Michael Hyatt |
Re: AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 Please accept this with a grain of salt, after all, it only my opinion. First of all, get yourself a simulator, from the inexpensive esky to the more expensive realflight, or any of the other half dozen simulators that are available. Although both the axn and bixler are nice planes, I really don't consider either as a proper trainer. The bixler would be a better choice than the axn. Both are really geared more towards an intermediate flier than a novice or beginner. You should really start with something like a wilga, j3 cub, or cessna, all of which are high wing planes and better suited to learning on. You should find a local club and get some training, which most clubs will provide free before/after membership. There is no sense getting a plane and crashing it before you have a chance to fly it. Slow steps up the ladder with your experience will provide a long and enjoyable time in the hobby. |
| 06-20-2011 06:34 PM | |
| evan |
AXN Floater-Jet VS. Bixler EPO 1400 I'm am a complete newb to RC planes. My interest was peaked after surfing YouTube looking at F-22 Raptor videos which eventually brought up EDF RC planes. As cool as the EDF jets look I see lots of people recommending starting off with something more like a Bixler or AXN. Are there any major pros and cons between the Bixler and the AXN? The only thing I noticed is the difference in wingspan. Here's a link to the AXN and Bixler at Hobby King. 
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