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01-13-2013 10:00 PM
Sharpy01
Re: Club membership increase

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Originally Posted by Jimmy P View Post
We started a non maac club and had 9 members the first day. Now that's a good start. I have to admit it's sure a lot more fun flying this way. There is a bylaw for park flyers but the cops come watch us and wish everyone was as nice and polite as us, they tell us to fly there all we want. We also havea 450 acre field for our bigger planes and heli's. I returned to the club for a maac funfly just to get dive bombed by idout pilots trying to hit a $3000 helicopter, "ENOUGH" is enough, know one listens to the helicopter pilots or respects them. It's just not worth it, fly with friends and have fun that's what it's all about , forget politics and everyone who wants to deal with them. A club prez and zone director all in one is TOTAL CONFLICT!!!!! RUINED OUR CLUB!!!!!!!! If we every go back it'll have to be renamed as "Peter's Park" for now maac has just lost 14 more members, cheers boys.

....wow.

"respect " is something you earn.

Those tyrannical selfless dudes, who by the by have never been on here disrespecting you, put countless hours in to create that site and only ask for your 50 bucks and your cheerful demeanor.....

- that site does not exist without Pete and a few key members who punch above their height
-the city doesn't even let us on their former dump site without a 5 million dollar policy
- and the "cops " in this town don't do bylaw enforcement

9 eh? What's the value in trashing us idiots who are quite happy enjoying and respecting the hard work of those I consider good friends?

......didn't you pay your club membership up at that same funfly?

Don't get it dude. I think everyone is happier with you folks doing what you like at your own place. Why not just leave it that way?
01-13-2013 05:22 PM
MikeCam
Re: Club membership increase

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Originally Posted by Jimmy P View Post
We started a non maac club and had 9 members the first day. Now that's a good start. I have to admit it's sure a lot more fun flying this way. There is a bylaw for park flyers but the cops come watch us and wish everyone was as nice and polite as us, they tell us to fly there all we want. We also havea 450 acre field for our bigger planes and heli's. I returned to the club for a maac funfly just to get dive bombed by idout pilots trying to hit a $3000 helicopter, "ENOUGH" is enough, know one listens to the helicopter pilots or respects them. It's just not worth it, fly with friends and have fun that's what it's all about , forget politics and everyone who wants to deal with them. A club prez and zone director all in one is TOTAL CONFLICT!!!!! RUINED OUR CLUB!!!!!!!! If we every go back it'll have to be renamed as "Peter's Park" for now maac has just lost 14 more members, cheers boys.

I went to the same fun fly and saw lots of courteous flyers. Peter has done lots for the local club and also as ZD for many years. What have you done for your local club or your hobby in general? I see Peter at every funfly in Northwestern Ontario and Manitoba and I only see you at the Kenora funfly, sorry I don't get out to the park much.

Peter is very much respected by many flyers, you on the other hand, not so much.

I suggest you keep your comments to yourself, Your 14 so called flyers get overwhelmed 10 fold by the supporters in Peter's corner.
01-09-2013 07:25 AM
mryehr
Re: Club membership increase

Many years ago, I ran a commercial RC flight school. Literally hundreds came to me out of desperation wanting to learn how to fly. Most came from clubs who either didn't have instructors or had instructors listed on the roster, but never seemed to be there when needed. Others had very bad instructors, some who could barely fly themselves.
If you want to know what is really going on in RC flying clubs anywhere, a commercial flight school is the best way to do market research for the hobby/sport.
01-08-2013 07:33 PM
OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK
Re: Club membership increase

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Originally Posted by RAMJET View Post
remember you not only have to get the newcomers interested in flying they also have to be interested in the people they fly with(have someone they connect with). many times there is a large generation gap between the new and older members. I don't remember as a kid wanting to hang out with any of my dads friends LOL. younger members have a hard time joining with other younger members because in most cases they are not mobile.even for the older newcomer there can be a knowledge gap that will leave them feeling out of the loop . the hobby is all about having fun .the clubs that do the best do not just teach they become friends with there new members .I remember first joining Humber valley I think it was around 1981 I showed up with my sig kadet feeling out of place and immediately I fella named Dale walked over and started talking to me ,we have been friends ever since. back then all the planes were pretty simple and when I showed up with mine everyone was quite interested,I can't imagine how it must feel to a newcomer these days showing up with there new foamy and seeing a bunch of 35%ers. Roger

Well said Rodger! This is a big problem at some clubs that I have been to. Act interested in the new comer's stuff even if you have to fake it!! (Show a good attitude!)

DarthAnal, no mall, local radio or tv station(population here is about 1200). The post office has a bulletin board that we have used, we must try the school again( something came up last time & it got cancelled). Thanks for your ideas.

Oh! Yes, I did offer to take over for the president & he gladly accepted so I have been struggling with it for the past several years.

Mryehr, thanks for the video links! I will see if I can down load them onto a CD or memory card for further study. As the club's only instructor I have in the past spent too many hours teaching with too little progress by the looks of it!
01-08-2013 02:39 PM
Gregor77
Re: Club membership increase

RAMJET, I would have to agree on the generation gaps... I was not confortable with some of the club meetings that I attended until I found a club that was closer in age. Not to say that it was bad, but 80% of the group are now good friends regardless of age. It's just a bit overwheelming when you are the youngest being in your 40's.

All the best to everyone in the new year and keep building!
01-08-2013 09:17 AM
RAMJET
Re: Club membership increase

remember you not only have to get the newcomers interested in flying they also have to be interested in the people they fly with(have someone they connect with). many times there is a large generation gap between the new and older members. I don't remember as a kid wanting to hang out with any of my dads friends LOL. younger members have a hard time joining with other younger members because in most cases they are not mobile.even for the older newcomer there can be a knowledge gap that will leave them feeling out of the loop . the hobby is all about having fun .the clubs that do the best do not just teach they become friends with there new members .I remember first joining Humber valley I think it was around 1981 I showed up with my sig kadet feeling out of place and immediately I fella named Dale walked over and started talking to me ,we have been friends ever since. back then all the planes were pretty simple and when I showed up with mine everyone was quite interested,I can't imagine how it must feel to a newcomer these days showing up with there new foamy and seeing a bunch of 35%ers.

The way I see it make them feel welcome and they will come regardless of how bad your teaching program is .cheers Roger
01-08-2013 05:10 AM
mryehr
Re: Club membership increase

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Originally Posted by OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK View Post
mryehr, I wish I was closer to you to have some of your techniques & enthusiasm rub off on me!
http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/..._technique.htm

I had the videos made so that others could teach themselves how to use this method, or at least see that it works and contact me for more information. You can safely practice with a buddy-cord attached and reaching over to the student's tx. There are written instructions on one of the videos.MAAC and AMA has probably collectively spent hundreds of thousands of dollars promoting the hobby/sport and didn't get much of anything on such a huge investment. All I was suggesting was that these organizations along with the multi million dollar RC aero modeling industry spend the cost of an email, phone call or send someone in authority to take a serious look at what I purpose. What's it going to cost them to do so?

I've offered to essentially "give back" to the hobby/sport for free.
Maybe I should demand large sums of money, since they are so used to throwing money at a long standing lack of growth problem. lol

They want growth and I offer a means to growth. They totally ignore my ideas. As shown, two high ranking AMA officials personally witnessed and now know for a fact that it works. What are they afraid of? I can't even get an answer from anyone. Anyone got any better ideas? This proven growth program could start immediately.

mryehr
01-07-2013 09:15 PM
DarthAnal
Re: Club membership increase

OPRN, I can certainly sympathize with your situation -- any easy avenue of getting more members is blocked or a long, hard struggle to get anything moving.

Can you ask the club president to let you mange the club meetings for the next year? Be diplomatic and focus on the fact that he may be stretching himself too thin, and you've got some ideas that you'd like to try out.

Cable TV in your area? Try getting some airtime on the sports or local interest programs as part of their community involvement? I did one session for the Aurora cable TV when they were still the local cable station. Showed the colours, talked about the various models that were being flown and provided contacts.

Another avenue might be the local Legion... especially if ther are ex-RCAF/CAF members. Offer to have show-and-tell session. Same thing with the local mall. Schools. Community groups. Churches with "boys clubs" or after-school or evening activities. Hand-launch or catapult gliders can get them started.
01-07-2013 08:14 PM
OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK
Re: Club membership increase

DarthAnal, the meetings became very breaf and informal to the point of no structure(we were fairly informal before) and no added interest topics. I had previously tried to bring a little "show & tell" to every meeting but he didn't have time. He was on several other commities & clubs in town & they often conflicted.

The Coronation annual fair is held on a Wednesday dating back to the 40's & 50's when everyone had Sunday & Wednesday off & worked Saturday! There is an on going battle with the fair board to change it to Saturday but they are mostly well up in years & refuse to consider "breaking tradition", so the fair has not progressed beyond what a few local farm wives & seniors can put together!

As for the local "rag", it was owned by a very obsinate woman that few people like, charged unbelievable rates for adds and eventually dwindle down to the point that she sold out to a regional free disribution paper to get enough content & readership but - they kept her on as editor!

So I tried the local Air Cadets with some interest being generated but not enough to translate into feet on the club field.

mryehr, I wish I was closer to you to have some of your techniques & enthusiasm rub off on me!
01-07-2013 03:59 PM
Michael in Toronto
Re: Club membership increase

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Originally Posted by DarthAnal View Post

The main club that I belong to has monthly seminars and topics have been sessions with local kit manufacturers, the head of the FPV committee for MAAC, building techniques (vacuum-forming), and the next one will be on pylon racing. One business meeting a year (AGM) and the total business portion takes twenty minutes and then off to more fun items like a swap meet and/or giveaways and/or aviation movies.

One local club runs their monthly meetings at a drinking establishment and I've got issues with that not exactly being inclusive.
How can you fix something when you're blind to the problem?

The main club you belong to has maybe 1 or 2 or 3 non-board members attending each meeting, whereas the "drinking establishment" meetings routinely bring in more than 30 members.

I would guess your club has very few members, whereas our club is facing a need to cap membership as we seem to have too many members.

I'll share the secret:

Focus on fun only, and ban all hot-air and politics.
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