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11-14-2010 05:59 PM
Guest
Re: 400 mph RC plane

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Originally Posted by Rcpete View Post
Moderator, please delete this thread.
This kind of crap can only get our jets banned.
Rcpete

Actually RcPETE, this is a perfectly reasonable discussion of the safety aspects of this facet of the hobby and one member's concerns and perceptions.

John, I appreciate the thread name change -- it aligns more closely with your concerns and wanting to discuss the video and the safety issues that you were raising.

Being able to successfully fly a model airplane at high speeds and to do it in a safe manner is always an "on topic" from my viewpoint. LGM has described what he has to do with his models to fly at such speeds.

Definitely something where TLAR (That Looks About Right) doesn't apply in this end of the flight envelope. Absolutely reliability is the name of the game.

"Good, better,best; never let it rest, till your good is better and better best"
11-13-2010 12:08 AM
Pepperpete
Re: A friendly discussion of jet flight and safety.

I personally think this statement summed up Jet Pilots completely. And that includes the Pilots flying at 400MPH in the video's...

"It comes as no surprise to me that insurance claims involving model jets are low. Anyone flying them are exceptionally skilled pilots who have sunk a lot of time and money into the hobby sport. Plus, by comparison to other types of model planes, their numbers are low. "

It really bothers me when it's the people who don't fly Jets or have never had direct experience with them, who can cause us big problems with threads like this. But I am thrilled that this thread has been so well spoken from the beginning. It's a wonderful change from RC Universe/Groups.

Regarding speed or perceived speed. When I flew my F-16 here in Kelowna, many in the club couldn't fathom how I was controlling the bird. But from my own perception, I felt it was a bit on the slow side and it was NOT difficult. Especially compared to the faster gear I've seen at Jet Events. Youtube video's, and even seeing these jets in real life is not the same as flying them. I think some (not all) who don't have that experience can't seem to realize that.

I also do not fly for the ego boost. It's not a power trip. It sure can be a bit frustrating listening to the "I've flown for 30+ years so let me tell you..." comments by non jet pilots. It always seems to precede a tongue lashing on RC Jets. I am not pointing ANYONE out in this thread and please understand that. It's something I've experienced at our local field. Some of these people then criticize an area of the hobby that they have no experience in.

50MPH
100MPH
200MPH
300MPH

All speeds that can do amazing harm to people. Helicopters/Biplanes/Cubs/Jets it doesn't matter. It's how we conduct these aircraft and maintain safety that saves this harm from coming to pass. The person who posted the crash video's and then said "OMG WHAT IF THIS HAD HIT PEOPLE" missed a major point. They didn't hit people because of flight lines and safety procedures.

I am more scared at our field being surrounded by new pilots with 60+ size gassers than any jet pilot I know. I've personally helped one of our gasser pilots to the hospital due to fingers being cut to ribbons by the prop on his plane. And witnessed countless other injuries due to inattentiveness or just simple ignorance. I have never even heard of an injury with an RC Jet.

Those who make the rules for jet flying NEED to be jet pilots. It's the only way to get true understanding. I'm just glad to see that RC Canada has more level headed pilots from all aspects of the hobby. It's a refreshing change.
11-12-2010 09:17 PM
mark_
Re: 400 mph RC plane

Ok guys...same topic (an important one I think) is happening in two different threads...I am going to merge the two.
11-12-2010 09:11 PM
williame3590
Re: 400 mph RC plane

It is truely amazing how a guy can track something that small travelling those speeds. Good eyes are a must, unbelievable.

Bill
11-12-2010 08:56 PM
Pepperpete
Re: 400 mph RC plane

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Originally Posted by Rcpete View Post
Moderator, please delete this thread.
This kind of crap can only get our jets banned.
Rcpete
The guy knew exactly what he was doing (obviously by the 3 foot to get the plane landing he made), nothing was shown besides extreme speed that was well controlled.

That's like saying someone in an F1 car had better be banned just because of the speed he is reaching. If it was someone who obviously didn't know what he was doing then maybe. But I would like to think at this price point and the dedication it takes to get to turbine level, that it weeds out the true idiots.
11-12-2010 07:23 PM
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Re: 400 mph RC plane

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Originally Posted by Rcpete View Post
Moderator, please delete this thread.
This kind of crap can only get our jets banned.
Rcpete
Why would it get our jets banned? It's not happening in north America, he's not breaking any rules, he's not doing anything stupid, he's just flying fast, flying that airplane that fast is still probably safer than flying some of the current chinese produced crap that's out there at any speed!
11-12-2010 04:16 PM
reo
Re: 400 mph RC plane

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11-12-2010 03:51 PM
Wheels_78
Re: 400 mph RC plane

Gotta love how after speeds like that, and a deadstick that needed to cover more sky than some complete flights I've witnessed, it comes to a stop about 3 paces away.
11-12-2010 03:49 PM
mark_
Re: 400 mph RC plane

Pete...did you read the 7 page thread that Ddruck and Max have pointed out? If you did, you will see that it a mostly civil discussion with some very good thoughts shared. That is the point of these boards.
11-12-2010 03:47 PM
Wheels_78
Re: 400 mph RC plane

I'm not a jet pilot, and this video doesn't scare me, it's obvious that this guy knows what he's doing.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that there is no regulation of who flys what here in Canada that would mean there is something that does scare me a little. The only thing standing between someone who just successfully landed a trainer and a jet like this, is money. Maybe that NEEDS to change?
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