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10-07-2010 06:50 PM
mark_
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Flew with my buddy this evening...him on the Trojan and me on the PZ Extra. Now that he has that Trojan trimmed out it flies like a friggin dream. Watching him do some slow and easy lazy eights made me want to trade him for the Extra! I didn't fly it but that T28 floats great.
10-07-2010 03:52 PM
rusty33
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Awesome.
10-07-2010 03:25 PM
mark_
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Yeah Rusty, last weekend was amazing, flew both days. Today is unreal, 19 degrees not a spec of wind...lucky I happened to have some batteries and my Radian in car and ended up taking a somewhat extended lunch break.
10-07-2010 01:45 PM
rusty33
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Mark,

It is the first version, not the latest brushless version.

It just doesn't have the power (I'm using a 3s, maybe the stock battery would perform a bit better but I doubt it, as the stock is a 10.8v nimh) to get out of any sort of trouble. Handles very softly compared to the 109. Rolls are possible but oh so slow and painful. It has but one servo for the ailerons and I suspect that is where most of the trouble lies. All in all, a most unsatisfying flying experience.

I bought it new two years ago and just this summer put it together.

IF the 'gunfighter' is anything like the 109, it'll be a winner.

We enjoyed a great weekend in Calgary. Rolled in Friday for a Saturday wedding and drove home on Sunday. Was supposed to be howling wind on Saturday and instead, we had a warm, perfect for flying day. Hope you were able to get out and enjoy it too.
10-06-2010 11:24 AM
mark_

Rusty,

Just out of curiosity, why did you hate the P51 so much?
10-06-2010 10:30 AM
Max
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

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Hey guys,

I'm flying the PZ Extra 300 and having a great time with it even if I'm still having a tough time making my landings look pretty. My buddy just bought a Trojan and we flew it yesterday...although the plane is beautiful looking in the air, I have to say that I was a little disappointed. It had power but not tons of it, and no matter where he put the CG it would fly nose heavy.

My question is...how are the warbirds in comparison to the Trojan?
The T-28 is a fun tooling around plane. It is quite manuverable. I can fly the basic IMAC pattern with it, only it doenst spin so great.
By the same token, the Parkzone Corsair and the ME109 are equally as maneuverable. What limits the T-28 is its large dihedral. Inverted fluing on the T-28 is difficult, it keeps wanting to roll off. Knife edges are more 45 degree edges due to the ineffectiveness of the rudder.

Also, When I ran a larger pack, I found the extra weight was a real negative. the plane flies best when it is light-light-light.


Personally, i would choose a foamy warbird over the T-28. Though they have the same maneuverability, the lesser dihedral is a plus. Plus the warbird looks and the tail dagger configuration are a joy to behold.

PS- I only keep my T-28 for my kids to use. I like to fly it every once in a while but I have other foamy warbirds in my collection that I prefer to fly over the T-28.
10-06-2010 09:57 AM
rusty33
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Mark,

I have the 109...got it for Christmas. What 45 year old doesn't like toys at Christmans?
It goes where you point it and is reasonably powerful. More is always, always better, but it is pretty decent. I also have the original pz mustang. Flew it once and will not fly it again. There's just no point. I also picked up the the new su26. If you like the 300, you'll love the 26. It tracks incredibly well and will fly in a pretty decent wind. Amazing considering it is so tiny.
Have fun,

rusty
10-06-2010 08:57 AM
mark_
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Interesting Tyler...I have a power system from my retired (read crashed) Easyglider Pro...I think that it's the same motor as the power system for the Acro, if so, that will save me some money. I've been thinking of one for about a year now...while I don't regret getting the PZ Extra 300, I still want the Acro.
10-04-2010 04:22 PM
Tyler P
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

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Tyler : did you find the nose to be weak on the Acromaster? I've been looking at one of those for some time now. I've heard that the nose is flimsy.
I never had a problem with the nose of mine. I have no idea what everyone had been complaining about, as I'd read the same things about the nose. My motor mount never got loose and the nose stayed together just fine, and I was still new to flying when I had mine, so it got abused also!

They're awesome foamies. Easily the best there is. They fly just as well or better than a 3D Hobby Shop Extra of the same size, and almost as well as my 50" Stevens Aero Edge kit that I built. I ran the same power system in all 3 planes. The Stevens Aero Edge was the lightest and best flying small plane I've had, but not nearly as tough as the Acro Master. I think the Acro Master tracked better, though.
10-03-2010 07:32 PM
mark_
Re: PZ Trojan vs Warbirds

Thanks Dan...I'll check your Radian update right away, looking forward to hearing about the maiden! My buddy flew his Trojan tonight and I flew the 300...big difference between the 2. The 300 lands much faster and does not have the float factor that the Trojan does. I was plunking her down in the weeds but still keep the wheels on. I replaced the little factory ones with bog 2.5" dubros for taxi-ing but I find they really help with orientation as they are nice and big. The Trojan floats and lands nice and easy whereas the 300 is still a bit of a bear for me to land...most of them are not pretty at all.
I haven't been doing any AV lately but will be soon. An artist lady that I know has been asking for some aerial footage of Banff...I think I'll give it a try this week. I'll post it over at the AP thread.

Ken : thanks for your input. I noticed that my buddy's elevator was not neutral...not far out at all, barely noticeable but enough to be the culprit...problem solved. Once trimmed the Trojan will fly hands off no trouble. I still think that it's lacking power though, especially compared to the 300 rocket!!

Tyler : did you find the nose to be weak on the Acromaster? I've been looking at one of those for some time now. I've heard that the nose is flimsy.
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