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03-21-2015 01:58 PM
Kibbs
Re: Next Heli

Thanks Channing

I guess we all wish there was some consistency between FBL systems but hey perhaps that is part of the fun. I was thoroughly confused with the pitch settings and still am to some extent, I have some experience with the GPRO and there are some distinct differences.

That said I set what I thought was right zeroing from the neutral cyclic and allowing for ~12 degrees of pitch from there. Then 10 degrees of collective.

Too nasty out this afternoon with 50++ kph winds so my basement had to be the test grounds for a hover. Lifts right on queue with a flat throttle and pitch setting at about 45% throttle. Hovers well very stable until the rotor wash kicks in not hard to do in a 10 x 20 space. I am a happy helli pilot at this point!!

Cheers.
03-21-2015 10:53 AM
coastrc
Re: Next Heli

I'm not familiar with Ikon, but sounds like you have figured it out. 6 channels is minimal for sure DX8 would be a good upgrade, & they have good deals right now, although they usually do a spring promotion & may offer an even better deal. Good luck with your maiden!
03-21-2015 08:06 AM
Kibbs
Re: Next Heli

I may have found the issue. After mucking about I read something on the auto-level feature on the unit it gave someone else fits but in his case around orientation. I decided to try a few things. I swapped the Aileron and Pitch servo wires and initialized, the Aileron bumped up the same as the Pitch went down wired correctly. So I eliminate a servo problem in this case least in my mind.

Hooked up the USB and removed the self level feature hooked things up right again and voila things appear normal, re-leveled the swash and things look good through the entire range.

Perhaps this is because I am running a 6 channel radio? I know I cannot set up 3 flight modes so I am wondering if that was indeed confusing the FBL. Maybe there is a need to find a DX8.
03-21-2015 06:54 AM
Kibbs
Re: Next Heli

Hey guys winter is leaving us and I have nearly finished the T-Rex 500 upgraded to DFC w/Ikon. walked though all the IKON setups leveled the swash etc. When it initializes swash jumps normally then servo 3 (pitch) will pull down a little extra then slowly rise but not back to level immediately perhaps 30 seconds or so. I have adjusted linkages but it seems I get it level and reassemble the head and the same thing is apparent or it is totally different. The consistent thing is that it appears to be the pitch servo.

I was altered to this while doing a little shakedown run and spooling up slowly a few times to double check things. I noticed once I got to about 30% throttle it would want to lift the right skid and tip, throttle hold is your friend!

Removing blades and spooling seems to be fun until way up in the throttle where the pitch servo rises significantly again about 75% throttle.

I am questioning the one servo or perhaps the IKON FBL both are new the only changes to the servo DS510 are metal gears.

Any thoughts? Thanks I am a little nervous on this bird my 150 and 250 are a breeze to get off the ground this one I am not sure of

Wayne
01-09-2015 07:23 PM
Kibbs
Re: Next Heli

I did not find much on them to be honest. Ikon is on the way so will see how it goes.

Thanks guys
01-09-2015 05:12 PM
Phil Noel
Re: Next Heli

Quote:
Originally Posted by coastrc View Post
What about a SK540 clear? Skookum is an excellent FBL, super easy setup, very good online support, & made right here in Canada...
The Skookum units are the most popular at the two club fields I fly at. They all seemed to work very well.
01-09-2015 06:29 AM
coastrc
Re: Next Heli

What about a SK540 clear? Skookum is an excellent FBL, super easy setup, very good online support, & made right here in Canada...
01-07-2015 10:16 PM
Kibbs
Re: Next Heli

Thanks Carl

Yes the batteries are a lot more and the equipment to charge is as well. Lukily there is a little used stuff out there once can get hands on. Now I need to finish the build and get things setup and wait for a nice day
01-06-2015 09:24 AM
tyronian
Re: Next Heli

your story sounds much like mine i.e starting with small CP units and wanting to go to something bigger. Eeryone who has replied here has given you good advice in my opinion. One thing to keep in mind when moving to 500's and up is the cost of the batteries and the associated power supplies and chargers. Good quality equipment isn't cheap (as I have recently learned) and is important to have when you start buying more expensive batteries. I do not want to discourage you from going to something bigger. It was some kind of thrill when I spooled up my 600 and watched it leave the earth for the first time.
01-05-2015 03:39 PM
Kibbs
Re: Next Heli

James, I've enjoyed the assembly up until wiring. The ESC positioning and the motor wiring was something I was not overly happy with. There is no way to hook up and have the ability to disconnect the motor. Under the battery mount wires are under and on the side same. We all strive to have the wiring neatly tucked in and want to balance the heli best we can. Under the battery tray also leads to the inability to move the FBL system to the top of the heli over the elevator servo. There is not enough lead from the ESC on the throttle lead to the FBL.

Perhaps someone can offer a way to extend this? I guess I could cut strip and solder in an extension with a shrink wrap cover.

I also swapped out the rear replacing the plastic for metal holders.

I talked to Eugene at Rotorquest and IKON was suggested, I did think about Bavarian Demon 3X as well.

Should be fun once complete, will be anxiously waiting to spin it up.
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