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09-08-2010 08:03 AM
1THEPALMER
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

Not really a hornets nest, It's sort of the ford vs chevy thing.
The AC6 is a good all in one package. There are a ton of 50W chargers in the market so lots of choice.
Happy Flying!
09-08-2010 12:28 AM
ss40a
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

As long as we're all smiling!
09-07-2010 11:44 AM
channel38
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

Man, I never knew I would stir up such a hornet's nest over this topic.
Funny, seems being new to electrics I ask some controversial questions. lol
09-07-2010 02:48 AM
ss40a
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

I really don't understand you. The AC6 will charge 6s from a 12 volt input. It bumps up the voltage. So do the other "cheapies" I have used. You brag about Thunderpower being able to bump up voltage and charge 6S. SO DO the AC6's of this world. They only need 12 volts to do this. They can handle 11-18 volts versus your 11-16 volts. You seem to be reading the same data differently when looking a cheap and more expensive chargers.

I will spend my $ the way I want but when someone says 11-16 means it bumps up voltage and then when referring to another product 11-18 means they need higher voltage I have to speak up. You are maligning the cheap chargers with incorrect statements.
09-06-2010 10:53 PM
stegl
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

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Originally Posted by 1THEPALMER View Post
Yes looked @ the specs it needs 16V@10AMPS to deliver max charge right from the manual Sooooo your power supply does not cut it.
The prices listed are direct from Thunder Power, $99.00 is still more than HK
As far as the negative comments, they have enough faith in the product to leave all comments good or bad up. Do not see that on the Thunder Power site.
All Thunder Power products come from China so why pay over twice as much for the same thing. A 50/80 Watt charger is really the low end of the scale now, there are several units out in the marketplace that require 24V input.
Keep in mind I stated "small car battery" and "holds there"
I have AC power @ our club field so normally never resort to utilizing my car battery. But my charger is set to cut off if the input voltage goes below 11.5
My charger will default to the last paramaters used and has memory for 5 setups. Perhaps your buddy turned that feature off? You can on mine.
I can understand your defence of your charger choice, you payed a LOT for it so yes it's the greatest charger ever made!
I was just trying to give a few lower cost choices to what sounds like a beginner. Not start a flame war dude.
Not sure were you are getting your incorrect information from ; but not from the Thunder Power TP610C manual. The charger operates with a minimum of 11 volts to a maximum of 16 volts and will charge up to 10 amps output at any of these input voltages. The circuitry bumps up the voltage from any of the input voltages on up to charge up to 6 cells (arround 25 volts ) ; that is probably why some of the cheapie chargers need the much higher input voltages. I have never found any pricing in China on Thunder power Products. To my knowledge Thunder Power USA has them made for them exclusively in Korea . Sorry not the same country as China although there are lots of less expensive knockoffs made in China. The input cutoff voltage can be set by the user from about 10 volts and up as it is not preset by the manufacturer. I am not saying that there are not some good chargers out there being made and sold under various names BUT on the other side of the coin there is a lot of junk out there also. I still maintain that you pay for the features and quality that you get. I might also note that I do not use Thunder Power Lipo cells as I feel that there is better value out there with other brands. Your buck and you can spend it the way you like and I'll spend my buck the way I like .
09-06-2010 02:50 PM
1THEPALMER
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

Yes looked @ the specs it needs 16V@10AMPS to deliver max charge right from the manual Sooooo your power supply does not cut it.
The prices listed are direct from Thunder Power, $99.00 is still more than HK
As far as the negative comments, they have enough faith in the product to leave all comments good or bad up. Do not see that on the Thunder Power site.
All Thunder Power products come from China so why pay over twice as much for the same thing. A 50/80 Watt charger is really the low end of the scale now, there are several units out in the marketplace that require 24V input.
Keep in mind I stated "small car battery" and "holds there"
I have AC power @ our club field so normally never resort to utilizing my car battery. But my charger is set to cut off if the input voltage goes below 11.5
My charger will default to the last paramaters used and has memory for 5 setups. Perhaps your buddy turned that feature off? You can on mine.
I can understand your defence of your charger choice, you payed a LOT for it so yes it's the greatest charger ever made!
I was just trying to give a few lower cost choices to what sounds like a beginner. Not start a flame war dude.
09-06-2010 12:55 PM
ss40a
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

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Originally Posted by stegl View Post
I thought that we are talking about Lipo chargers not PC's ?
OK so chargers are different. I didn't know that they were so special.

BTW the charger doesn't need 18V in, It just will handle it, which is a good thing.
09-06-2010 11:01 AM
stegl
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

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Originally Posted by 1THEPALMER View Post
Stegal: That Thunder Power is only an 80W charger @ $129.95 From the website http://thunderpowerrc.com/html/cba-chargers.html
For that price I can get this http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...attery_Charger
For 50W a charger this has given excellent service. http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...w/_accessories
This is an 80W charger http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...attery_Charger
All the above come with a big bundle of charge leads the only extra to buy is a balance adapter if you own Thunder Power Lipos as they use a different connector than everyone else. The same is true if you buy the Thunder Power charger, your non Thunder Lipo packs balance plugs will not fit.
But note all the chargers spec. 15+ volts input even the 80W to get the claimed output. Powering these off a lead acid battery will give just over 12V to start and on my cars small battery the voltage quickly sags to around 11.8 and holds there. So for field charging a 50W charger is fine as that is about the max you will get utilizing a car battery as a power supply. I am now looking for a big power supply,(18V 20Amps min) am finding lots of stuff but cost size and weight become a factor. I have found several for under $100.00 US shipped with most landing $60/70 shipped. Still trying to decide there as now I will need a field box to hold all the stuff. I currently go flying with 2/3 planes and a double transmitter box holding everything. (transmitter, charger, powersupply, batteries, spare props, some tools)
Have you checked out the Thunder Power 610 specs or 1010c specs ? Have you used one ? HAVE YOU READ THE COMMENTS OF THE CHARGER YOU LINKED TO ?
It does not need 15 plus volts to operate on to supply max charge rate. Only thing which is minor; is, yes they could supply a better assortment of balance plug leads as aftermarket items . That is the only beef I have with it . There are tons of balance boards out there available to charge a wide assortment of the different lipo balancer plugs. The operation input range is what it will accept which is pretty broad. As far as pricing here we have to compare apples with apples. You can't take the suggested list of one charger and compare with with a selling discount of another discharger. Hobby Wholesale in Edmonton has them listed at $99 Cdn plus shipping. I don't know of any charger that has 18vdc as input voltage. If they do then they are lacking in performance if they can't produce max amp output at 12-14 volts. ThunderPower doesn't need a honkin big 20 amp power supply. A 12 amp is more than sufficient as I am using a regulated 13.5v at 6 amp and works just fine. I tried a friends less expensive charger charger and have to reset all charge parameters for the next battery as it did not default to the last one. Kind of a bummer when doing batteries for a twin flyer. Anyways I guess we all have preferences and choices. Oh by the way if your auto battery is sagging to 11.8 volts on your charger; I would have that checked out at an auto battery shop ; sounds like it may be on its last legs and wouldn't like to see you stranded this winter when it gets cold out. I use a true RV deep cycle 12v battery for my 12v supply at the field . Auto/truck batteries don't really cut it as they are only good for lots of amps for a start and then need a quick charge.
09-06-2010 10:32 AM
stegl
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

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Originally Posted by ss40a View Post
Definitely this is a false statement but we believe what we believe. So the 499 PC at The source with identical specs is the better machine than the Future Shop 399 for example!
I thought that we are talking about Lipo chargers not PC's ?
09-06-2010 09:32 AM
1THEPALMER
Re: Thunder AC6 charger from Hobby Partz

Stegal: That Thunder Power is only an 80W charger @ $129.95 From the website http://thunderpowerrc.com/html/cba-chargers.html
For that price I can get this http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...attery_Charger
For 50W a charger this has given excellent service. http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...w/_accessories
This is an 80W charger http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...attery_Charger
All the above come with a big bundle of charge leads the only extra to buy is a balance adapter if you own Thunder Power Lipos as they use a different connector than everyone else. The same is true if you buy the Thunder Power charger, your non Thunder Lipo packs balance plugs will not fit.
But note all the chargers spec. 15+ volts input even the 80W to get the claimed output. Powering these off a lead acid battery will give just over 12V to start and on my cars small battery the voltage quickly sags to around 11.8 and holds there. So for field charging a 50W charger is fine as that is about the max you will get utilizing a car battery as a power supply. I am now looking for a big power supply,(18V 20Amps min) am finding lots of stuff but cost size and weight become a factor. I have found several for under $100.00 US shipped with most landing $60/70 shipped. Still trying to decide there as now I will need a field box to hold all the stuff. I currently go flying with 2/3 planes and a double transmitter box holding everything. (transmitter, charger, powersupply, batteries, spare props, some tools)
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