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10-26-2014 08:58 AM
aeajr
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

Sent you a private message about who to contact at the Eastern Soaring League and the ALES League. Let me know how it works out.
10-26-2014 07:00 AM
FabFlight
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

Hi Ed,

This is still preliminary and subject to my club's board approval but you could set a provisionnal date for a major North-East Canada-USA 2-days ALES competition on your ESL calendar, for Aug. 29 and 30 2015.

This would be in Lacolle, QC, 30 minutes south of Montreal, 10 minutes from the NY-QC border.
10-06-2014 05:49 PM
Rod
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

The Penmac Ken Gregory ALES events are open to all, providing that you are a MAAC or AMA member.
10-06-2014 04:22 PM
aeajr
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

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The Penmac club from Penticton B.C. holds a monthly ALES event at Okanagan Falls B.C. this event named after the founder, Ken Gregory, draws from 8 - 12 fliers. Events are run usually on the first Sunday of the month starting in May of each year. I have attached a photo of yesterday's event.
Are they open to non-club members? If they are you must say that or people will expect that they are for club members only.
10-06-2014 03:42 PM
Rod
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

The Penmac club from Penticton B.C. holds a monthly ALES event at Okanagan Falls B.C. this event named after the founder, Ken Gregory, draws from 8 - 12 fliers. Events are run usually on the first Sunday of the month starting in May of each year. I have attached a photo of yesterday's event.
09-24-2014 11:42 AM
ddruck
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

Thanks for all the information, some I knew about but some I did not, we will have to get more organized.

Dan
09-24-2014 10:51 AM
aeajr
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

BTW,

I received this from RCFlight Deck after our contest date passed.


From: RCFlightDeck@RCFlightDeck.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:10 AM

RE: Eastern Soaring League Unlimited Sailplane/Glider - Thermal Duration/TD Contest

Congratulations on concluding your event! Now it's time to brag a bit.


DRAG AND DROP photos right onto your event listing or post videos instantly! Use the "LINK" tool right on the listing page and send that out to your attendees (using the EMAIL MARKETING tool) encouraging them to upload photos and videos they shot at your event. Photos posted in forums get lost very quickly. When you post photos on your listing, they are organized in folders with the uploader's name and they are always searchable! We feature the best photos and your event name on our home page. Visit your listing now!

If you intend to host this event next year, just visit your event dashboard and COPY IT! One click of the ADMIN button and select "Duplicate." You can change what you want and publish it whenever you want.

Go to http://www.rcflightdeck.com/getRCFlightDeck.cfm and copy a snippet of code so you can use RC FlightDeck on YOUR WEBSITE. You can use it as-is or start entering your own club or organization events (like meetings, gatherings, etc) and set the calendar to show those by default.

If you didn't use the feature this year, be sure to activate online pilot registration for next year. It's a great way to get early sign-ups and $$$ into your organization's account! You can always add pilots to your RC FlightDeck Pilot roster manually so all of your information is in one place. NO MORE COPYING AND PASTING EMAIL ENTRIES INTO A SPREADSHEET! Our new dashboard creates badges, accounting reports check-in lists, Aircraft lists and announcer sheets as well as address labels and exportable files for importing into other applications.
Thanks again for using RC FlightDeck. If you liked it, PLEASE pass the word along. We'd like to keep this free service going for all of us involved.

Michael Kranitz
RC FlightDeck



It just doesn't get much better than this. It is easy and it is FREE to use.
09-24-2014 10:39 AM
aeajr
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

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Originally Posted by ddruck View Post
Fabian, I think the largest ingredient is public information. it is so difficult to find any kind of list of competitions from any of the clubs. We all have contests that almost no one knows about, even neighboring clubs. MAAC has lists of many but is is hard to wade through their system. If there was a central repository of all competitions in Canada of all glider events that would be dynamic with current updates and changes, it may pull glider flying a bit out of the inevitable slump it is falling into.
I travel in the summer and would try to attend competitions if I knew they existed but currently I have no idea where to check for the area I am planing to go.

Dan
There are plenty of opportunities out there to advertise your events if your contests are open to non-club members. I don't publish our club contests as they are only for club members. But the open events get lots of exposure.

Rather than try to create your own contest system, you can leverage the ones that are already out there. You just have to go through the process of listing it and deciding where and how you want to take registration.

www.rcflightdeck.com is free and easy to use. While it might not be exclusive to Canada it could still be helpful if all the clubs standardized on this resource.

For ALES contests, check with http://ales-league.org/ and you will see they already list Canadian ALES events. They use the RCFlightdeck system as their calendar.

Here is what I do.

I listed our Eastern Soaring League contests on the www.flyesl.org web site and chose to use that one for registration. As the ESL is an organized league we have rules as to when contests can be listed an attempt to avoid overlap of contest types. For example, we try to keep TD contest weekend two weeks apart, especially if they are near each other. The league and the ESL Website were developed years ago and both are constantly evolving.

I also listed them on the RCFlightdeck but did not use their registration feature. I point people to the www.flyESL.org site for registration.

Next year we will have an ESL, ALES contest. I will list it and take registration on the ESL website but will also list it on RC Flightdeck, ALES-League, and on the RCGroups calendar, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1734784 And since my events are AMA sanctioned events they are listed in the AMA magazine too.

This gets me max exposure but all registrations are done on the ESL website and I point all the listings there. I presume MAAC has some kind of contest listing as well.

I also start a discussion thread on each of the major forums to gain even more exposure and to have an opportunity to answer questions about weather, hotels, driving directions, rules, etc.
09-23-2014 11:18 AM
FabFlight Hi Dan,

The complete listing of the eastern competitions is on http://rcflightdeck.com This platform is very cool, also handling registrations. You can search events by proximity and type.

Contest results are compiled by the ALES League at http://ales.org where there is also a broad calendar of events.

There are two ALES in the next two weekends.
09-23-2014 09:13 AM
ddruck
Re: ALES vs. F5J - Which is more popular in Canada?

Fabian, I think the largest ingredient is public information. it is so difficult to find any kind of list of competitions from any of the clubs. We all have contests that almost no one knows about, even neighboring clubs. MAAC has lists of many but is is hard to wade through their system. If there was a central repository of all competitions in Canada of all glider events that would be dynamic with current updates and changes, it may pull glider flying a bit out of the inevitable slump it is falling into.
I travel in the summer and would try to attend competitions if I knew they existed but currently I have no idea where to check for the area I am planing to go.

Dan


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Originally Posted by FabFlight View Post
Hi,

There is a very active group of ALES pilots in the Montreal-Ottawa region. Our competitions usually gather 18-24 highly competitive pilots and it's booming too. A new club from the Montreal area joined this year, totaling now 5-6 clubs within a few hours drive. I'm thinking of perhaps organizing a Polecat-type event along with pilots from the ESL. One of our club is located in Lacolle just next to the Quebec-NY border, this is a strategic location 10 minutes away from the border and the A15 freeway. It could fit at the last weekend of August.

The sod farm in Lacolle is really large, with excellent visibility and few obstacles.

With a few pilots joining from the US and Niagara region I think it could be a great Eastern championship with 30-40 pilots on the first year.

What do you think? What would be the right ingredients to get Niagara region and ESL pilots here next year?
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