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| 09-17-2010 01:50 PM | ||
| adaptabl |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Sounds like winter is comming. It amazes me that a few people continue to make a big deal out of small issues. We all enjoy the same hobby and we need to remember this. As someone with no club executive experience I was surprised at how easy small things can become a big deal and how quickly wrong information spreads. I very quickly learned you need to be like a duck in water and let issues like this roll of your back and move on. Once people find out you don't over react to every issue they seem to settle down. We have focused on promoting our hobby and our club and life is now much easier most of the time. |
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| 09-17-2010 11:11 AM | ||
| ronnieo |
Re: Non Profit incorporation I do a club video every year of the activities and we have a special night to show it. It costs next to nothing to make and I charge $2 for a copy to view at home and all proceeds go to the club... we raise about $50 a year for it and the money can go to restocking the club with RC videos we buy at Toledo each year. No harm done. |
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| 09-17-2010 06:57 AM | ||
| 10028 |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Thank you for the good advice. My email list was just a "cc" to people picked out from people I thought might be interested and there was more not on my club list than on. I see your point however and I only did a bulk mailing once and won't do it again. I am new at this and make mistakes. I just wish my club approached this issue with the common sense that has prevailed here on RC Canada. They said they had no issues with me, but the constitution states that "bla bla bla". Most members were happy the way things were. Just one or two won't drop it. It looks like my club is now going through a major change. Hopefully for the better. Today is a perfect flying day and there is lots of flying to be done. |
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| 09-17-2010 06:19 AM | ||
| PGB |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Quote:
Absolutely, unless members (or a member) has signed an agreement that his/her contact information can be provided to a third party vendor by the club. This is the law and part of PIPEDA (Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act). Many non-profit clubs have local vendors advertise in their newsletter or club website as a sponsor of the club and typically there is a small fee paid to the club for this privileged. Club identifies this income as "sponsorship" and there is no issues in regards to non-profit status. |
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| 09-17-2010 02:03 AM | ||
| ss40a |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Just a note though. I would not use the club email list, even as part of a larger list, to solicit or even describe a design that is to be sold. That definitely is not in the spirit of a club. You can make it known but we have a member who was a good supplier for us and our students and a very helpful person, but not once did he use club resources for sales or announcements of any kind. One full-size soaring club I was president of at the time, had a guy mail out advertising to members using the list. As president I had to warn him that should he use that list again he was no longer a member. All sorts of schmoozing and contact happens at all sorts of clubs but direct contact through mailing lists or email lists is not something that would be tolerated typically. Club contact lists are for club official business, not for any form or hint of SPAM!!! |
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| 09-16-2010 10:25 PM | ||
| PGB |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Quote:
"The Xxxxxxx Radio Control Flyers (XRCF) is a volunteer non profit organization without share capital and personal gain for any member." Then your interpretation of this bylaw is incorrect as your legal counsel will tell you if you care to ask him/her. No amendment would be required to your bylaws as the intent of a statement like this in your bylaw is to ensure the "corporation" (i.e. your club) does not pay dividends etc. to any individual for his/her personal gain, this statement is not about people conducting other business while using your flying field etc. as you have stated. If you use that logic then if one of your members was an electrician as a profession and another member wanted to hire him for many jobs, well then he would be contravening the bylaw just as you stated this individual has done. There simply is no legal mind that would agree with your interpretation of the bylaw above. It would seem you might have a personal issue with this type of activity at your club, but as far as a legal concern or concerns with your non-profit status, there simply is no merit. |
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| 09-16-2010 09:25 PM | ||
| 10028 |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Quote:
I do not set up shop at the field. I do not sell to people. They ask. I remember once asking if you'd like to buy a Mayhem after another member got you to fly it. I did no sales to you, I do not badger you. I sent an email out once introducing my new design. I sent it to many people and not just memebrs of the club. You make it sound like I post advertisements all over the field. So if I had a brick and mortar hobby store in town, would I be banned from joining the club? Could I not bring items out to the field for customers? I am not in the wrong and you are starting to become annoying. Give it up. The world does not always run your way. The club has not officially taken a stand either way on this issue. |
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| 09-16-2010 07:24 PM | ||
| Info |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Great site with good comments. We have in our constitution specific wording that no one can profit personally through our organization at our site of operations. This bylaw was voted on and passed by the members of our organization. Of course members can buy and sell all things relating to the sport, but not as a business for their own profit. The member in question is considered a great asset to us all and was offered special status in our organization to conduct his business. No one is jealous of this person the object was to protect his interests and those of our constitution and club. He was also informed that an ammendment to our rules is possible as long as we don't lose our not for profit status. |
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| 09-16-2010 12:14 PM | ||
| PGB |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Quote:
Don't give up on any dream because of a few people's "opinions", shoot nothing ever happen if everyone did that...sounds like you are doing a great job and are a huge asset to your club and hobby in the area. As the other reply stated....time to move forward with your services and dreams and may be start a wings program |
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| 09-16-2010 11:13 AM | ||
| f4u |
Re: Non Profit incorporation Dont give in Cory. There are lots who support you. I was President of our club for 3years. We had draws FunFlys ECT to raise a bit of cash to support the expenses of our club. We had a few complain ,you know waaa waaa. They finally left and peace now reigns. Dam the torpedos and move forward. Tom 
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