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12-09-2011 02:52 PM
Midnight Heli
Re: Phoenix setup?

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Originally Posted by waylander View Post
I'm a little confused. What you're discribing is the correct way that a collective pitch heli will react. The helis, as already mentioned, that self correct are co-axials or single rotor helis with 45 deg offset flybars.

Honestly, you don't need a sim for either a co-axial or a 45deg head but you definitely do for a CP.

Our CP helis are pretty similar to real life ones, you really wouldn't want a real life heli that always self stabilized.
Not all 45 deg offset flybar self correct, the blade MSR does and the Hirobo SRB Quark does not (both fixed pitch (FP)) Just a few of them do. But all Coaxial do sel correct. You actually have to read the specs to find out if they do or not. And all collective pitch (CP) do not.
12-09-2011 09:32 AM
waylander
Re: Phoenix setup?

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Originally Posted by wildernessbob View Post
hello peoples,
i'm just trying to get started with phoenix and a spektrum Dx6i for heli practice. i'm having issues with the way the sim seems to hold cyclic. if i roll or pitch then let the stick centre, the heli keeps the same roll or pitch. almost like there is a gyro hold. this is really making learning difficult. i've only flown the real thing once and i know it doesn't behave like this. if i let go of the stick shouldn't the thing level out? is there a setting i'm missing in either the remote or sim?
wb
I'm a little confused. What you're discribing is the correct way that a collective pitch heli will react. The helis, as already mentioned, that self correct are co-axials or single rotor helis with 45 deg offset flybars.

Honestly, you don't need a sim for either a co-axial or a 45deg head but you definitely do for a CP.

Our CP helis are pretty similar to real life ones, you really wouldn't want a real life heli that always self stabilized.
12-09-2011 04:56 AM
Midnight Heli
Re: Phoenix setup?

The only helis that will level out when you center stick are coaxial like the Blade MCX or heli that are design to do that, like the Blade MSR. All the others like the Blade 400, Trex 450 and higher will not level out. If you move the stick to the right and hold it there, it will roll over. If you move the stick to the right and center it, heli will tilt to the right and stay tilted untill you give it some left stick to stop the motion and recenter it. It is like putting a ball bearing on a flat surface. If you tilt the surface to the right, what motion do you need to do to stop the ball bearing from rolling? Helis act the same way. If you want more info on helicopters go and check out this site http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/ He has a lot of info there, even a flight school.
11-28-2011 03:54 AM
mikekimc
Re: Phoenix setup?

If you let go of the stick ... it does not level out Heath. I'm sorry but your Sim is behaving the way it should be. You say you flown once before ... what did you fly ... what model? Collective pitch helis do not level out! I believe fix pitch helis or coaxial helis will level themselves ... There is coaxial models in Phoenix sim.

Cheers
11-27-2011 08:26 PM
wildernessbob
Phoenix setup?

hello peoples,
i'm just trying to get started with phoenix and a spektrum Dx6i for heli practice. i'm having issues with the way the sim seems to hold cyclic. if i roll or pitch then let the stick centre, the heli keeps the same roll or pitch. almost like there is a gyro hold. this is really making learning difficult. i've only flown the real thing once and i know it doesn't behave like this. if i let go of the stick shouldn't the thing level out? is there a setting i'm missing in either the remote or sim?
wb


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