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| Fixed Wing Discuss fixed wing aircraft. |
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| 10-08-2014 05:35 PM | ||
| jsparky |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Hmm don't know... but the AeroPig looked pretty floaty on landing to me.. But they all have their ways.. mono the same.. I have this one little mono that it is as squirrelly as hell on the ground.. but once in the air and up to speed.. nice smooth plane to fly.. My little Extra 300.. good on the ground.. and get it up to 100 mph or more and it is the smoothest plane.. drop below 100 and it starts to get mushy.. don't even think about half throttle ... As far as nosing over.. they will all do that.. even a tric.. my hobbico 60 nosed over on me one day.. might have had something to do with the fact that I clipped a tree on final.. things got a little weird after that.. brought a piece of the tree back with the plane..  Now my little parakeet bi.. little OS 26 four stroke.. sweet heart of a plane to fly.. no bad things about it.. and floats to a landing.. My GP Stearman.. very good on the ground and flies well at most throttle postitions and very easy to land.. My Waco... it just loves to fly a real easy bi trainer...can do loops and rolls with relative ease.. but can be a handful in higher winds.. Now my old Sig Skybolt.. not something I would give to someone with only a couple of years flying,, ground handling is not bad,, for some silly reason it loves ground effect, does very well and is very stable.. needs right rudder on take off to hold a straight line and does not like slow speed.. this is one you have to push to the limits.. Once in the air and moving it flies well , very responsive,,, But !!!! don't touch the rudder.. any rudder movement results in severe roll coupling and nosing down.. so unless you expecting the sudden uncommanded movement... It lands very fast due to the very thin symetrical wings.. So dead sticking is a serious event.. Without the prop it will be coming back down very fast.. need a fair bit of nose down to keep the speed up to fly.. other wise.. point the nose to the ground and pick the spot where you want to pick up your new kit.. |
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| 10-08-2014 09:38 AM | ||
| Skidoo55 |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing I have a great planes super sportster bipe. Picked it up in London for $15. Spent an hour putting the top wing back together and back on the plane. Put a Thunder Tiger 46 in it. It's horrible on the ground for takeoff, but once in the air it has no crazy quirks, and landing is just like any other plane. However, since it isn't based on any real plane, I'm sure it's designed to fly well with, and is likely a far cry from how your Camel will behave. If you're not sure, get a more experienced pilot to fly it first. |
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| 10-08-2014 08:48 AM | ||
| DO335 |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Biplanes this, biplanes that... blah. blah, blah. They are not touchy on the ground. They are not difficult to fly. They don't land poorly. They don't float on landing. They are all different. Sopwith Camel has a very short nose so can get tail heavy and consequently very exciting in a big hurry. The only way to get to know your plane is to get off the simulator which is only some computer program's guess at how it will behave and actually fly it. Here's a link to a short clip of my GP Giant Aeromaster, dubbed the Aeropig, complete with wing walker. It was a tad porky at 24lbs with the smoke system. Engine is a G-62. Check the arrow straight take off run and flawless landing - all with no effort at all. A bipe will be no better or worse than any monoplane, especially if either one of them is not set up properly. Just remember that a major difference is that you fly it to the ground since they do tend drop like a brick when the power is cut due to lots of drag. And if it's a taildragger, the flight is not over until the engine (or motor if you are electric) is shut off and has stopped, same as with a monoplane. Once you get into it, you'll soon learn who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't - including some who have bipes. Some people can't fly a Sig Kadet Senior. |
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| 09-30-2014 08:43 PM | ||
| Old School Flyer |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Biplanes rocks I can't land a monoplane, floaty things The python or even beast is a very fast bird. Suprises people, the thin wings it is fastest plane i own, and I own a couple planes 
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| 09-30-2014 08:22 PM | ||
| jsparky |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Quote:
My old sig skybolt dead sticked on me 3 times in row... Went home and replaced engine.. And if they are set up correctly.. then no they are not too bad for nose overs.. that would be pilot error.. |
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| 09-30-2014 06:38 PM | ||
| billing |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Interesting thread. I've got a Proctor Curtiss Jenny kit on order. Although it might take a couple of building seasons to complete, I'm assuming since the real thing was a trainer, it's going to fly very similar to my old Goldberg Eaglet. Lots of drag and very forgiving but in a tail dragger configuration. |
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| 08-21-2014 09:43 PM | ||
| jsparky |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing The most terrifying time in any modellers life is the first 10 seconds of a maiden.. I have lost 60 sec of my life this year , that I will never get back.. but the camel is a flat bottom wing.. should very much be like my waco.. an excellent first bi.. a very gentle and easy plane to fly.. just hold a bit of up elevator untill you see the tail lifting.. then easy off the elevator just a bit as it picks up speed.. and the plane will pretty much do the rest for you as it get into ground effect and then into flight.. just be ready to correct with rudder and elevator if it does anything weird.. don't focus on anything except getting some altitude.. once you are up to a safe height,, then feel her out to see what she needs for trim.. have a buddy stand beside you and have him/her adjust the trims for you.. do a couple of low slow passes over the field to get a feel for how it will land... My 30cc GP stearman was a nightmare maiden.. as soon as it broke ground she turned straight up and wanted to roll hard left... it was a bit of a handfull at first and I ran out of elevator trim... not to mention that my wife bought me the plane and she really loves the look of it... oH yea.. she was also standing behind me... nothing like pressure on your first flight.. |
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| 07-20-2014 07:24 PM | ||
| pogo |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Just google the airplane and you'll find out everything there is to know about this particular models' flying characteristics- all biplanes don't share the same peculiararities and I think this Camel may have a few of it's own. Tom |
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| 07-19-2014 10:26 AM | ||
| hogflyer |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing Hi Fred a little about bipes I have had 4 so far and one built but have not flown yet and one in the box yet. Bi-Planes are in my opinion great they fly very good have a lower landing speed without stalling and in the air have a good visibility. The biggest problem is landing . Biplanes have a tendency to nose over . to help reduce this problem land a little slower than what you might with a mono wing and hold in up elevator to keep the tail down. I hope this has been helpful sincerely Hog Flyer Jim.... |
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| 06-17-2014 09:22 AM | ||
| kip51035 |
Re: Biplane vs Single Wing One thing that is unique to multi wing planes is, do not try to fly them too fast. The aerodynamic pressure between the two wings can cause a large build up of turbulent air between the wings and when this hits the tail surfaces can cause a complete loss of control. I saw one small over powered biplane flip around backwards for no apparent reason. |
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