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07-12-2014 08:07 PM
OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

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Did you get the house that suits you? I could do a double wide but the wife needs more of nicer bungalow with no stairs.
Priced a serviced lot to build on in Vernon - $300,000 and just big enough for a house with an attached garage, no yard!

We are still in Alberta and staying here. We will have to be content just to take the odd trip to BC.

Not so bad here anyway!
07-12-2014 07:50 PM
Spitfired
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

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Nice dream!
I wanted to do the same in the Salmon Arm/Vernon area. Then I priced it out eh - B.C. stands for "bring cash"! It would take 1.5 million to replace the 4.5 acres that I have here in Alberta!

And the flying season would only be extended about 2 weeks on each end.

So... unless I hit the BIG ONE the dream is over.

And you are correct about bylaws from what I hear!
Yeah I hear you, but you never know!
Did you get the house that suits you? I could do a double wide but the wife needs more of nicer bungalow with no stairs.
07-12-2014 06:49 PM
OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

Nice dream!
I wanted to do the same in the Salmon Arm/Vernon area. Then I priced it out eh - B.C. stands for "bring cash"! It would take 1.5 million to replace the 4.5 acres that I have here in Alberta!

And the flying season would only be extended about 2 weeks on each end.

So... unless I hit the BIG ONE the dream is over.

And you are correct about bylaws from what I hear!
07-10-2014 08:58 PM
Spitfired
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

I'm seeking an acreage in southern BC between Cranbrook, Creston, .... Keremeos, the size of the property could range from 2 acres to 20 acres. On a 20 acre piece of land I would consider a full size CH 701, a 26 pound RC Spitfire, 3 pound foam warbird, Ultra micro Spitfire. Local municipal bylaws may be a problem! I had a PPL 20 years ago to fulfill a childhood desire as I got older and want to stay around really long time I'm going to stick with RC.
07-10-2014 08:26 PM
Midair
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

True Scott, what you say and recommend is prudent however, lets be clear - there are currently no Canadian laws or regulations that prohibit the operation of a recreational model aircraft in any airspace, controlled or otherwise, except Class F. The single regulation that could bite you in the butt and cause someone problems is that we may not operate our models in such a way that creates a hazard to full scale aviation. That one reg is almost a "catch all," not unlike the military disciplinary charge "Conduct Unbecoming," for those folks that were or are in the Service; if, as a service person, you've done something wrong, but there's no specific charge that can be levied against you, Conduct Unbecoming could almost always be used. Back to R/C flying...if, for example, I'm flying my foamy in my backyard, located on the approach to a runway, three miles back, at a max altitude of thirty feet (below the tree line) no one, the courts included, could claim that the operation is a hazard to full scale aviation. On the other hand, if I do the same thing on the threshold of a runway or just off the button, I could now be charged, because clearly I'm creating a hazard - makes sense. These are two extreme examples, but the key is that type of airspace in which we operate is almost irrelevant. Its all about how we fly in those airspaces. My one recommendation is to always, always err on the side of caution and use your God given common sense. If you have to split hairs to determine whether or not you should be flying in a particular area, then maybe you shouldn't be flying there.

Peter
07-10-2014 04:35 PM
bcsaltchucker
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

There is a difference between the guidelines for 'airports' and mere 'aerodromes'

'aerodromes' are any place built for airplanes to take off and land, could be any surface, and perhaps even a body of water. Covers private airstrips and small civic aerodromes which may or may not be 'registered'. 'Airports' are specially 'certified' aerodromes by Transport Canada, and may have control zones around them. The airspace in such control zones designated Class C or Class B are fairly strict, and go right to the ground level. I'd say it is wise when flying within 8-10km of an 'airport' to call up the tower and let them know what you're doing, even if it is over your own land. They probably don't care if you stay low under 400ft in such a zone, but if you were close like 1km from the airport at 400 ft that might be too high.

I know some guys who would fly at a school field near Victoria Airport. I refused to fly RC there. Not only within 1km of the runways, but that airport has a lot of helicopter activity. When I fly planes there we are mindful and often warned about the heli school operating 500ft and below .. ie right in the kind of altitude RC planes often fly.

But even if you just have a neighbour with a airstrip or if he owns a helicopter, would be wise to call him up for a quick chat so each know what is going on.
07-10-2014 04:13 PM
Midair
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

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Well kind of!
Firstly can I expect the local authorities contacting me for flying on my property?
And If I had MAAC membership and my small foam plane does damage a car of my neighbor will I be covered thru MAAC(flying on my property)?

thks
The reason for my confusion was that you asked about your neighbours' personal property coming in contact with your model when in fact you're concerned about your property (model) hitting or impacting your neighbours' personal property - there is a difference. As David mentions in his post, if you follow the MAAC safety code for small or park flyers and there is no local or city bi-law prohibiting you from flying model aircraft on your property, you should be covered by MAAC for any damages that you may cause as a result of your hobby activities. The fact that your property is only 3.8 nm from an airport is irrelevant, unless you're flying in a manner that may be hazardous to full scale aviation; in that case you're dealing with Canadian aviation law. MAAC does not specifically prohibit model aircraft operations in the proximity of airports. If you have additional or specific concerns, I recommend that you pose your question, with details, directly to your zone director or the MAAC Safety Committee.

Peter
07-10-2014 04:10 PM
Spitfired
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

A “Park Flyer” can be any type of model aircraft flown in a public park.
This document covers only small, light-weight, slowmoving Park Flyers.
They can be fixed-wing or rotary, electric or rubber powered or an unpowered glider.

I'm thinking the biggest airplane the above MAAC quote may only be for example a Parkzone Ultra micro plane.
07-10-2014 02:04 PM
davidmc36
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

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.....If I had MAAC membership and my small foam plane does damage a car of my neighbor will I be covered thru MAAC(flying on my property)?

thks
If you adhere to the Park Flyer Safety code, (which has a specific mention of private property upon which you have permission to fly) I don't see why not.

http://www.maac.ca/docs/2013/msd_19_...2014_copy2.pdf
07-10-2014 01:49 PM
Spitfired
Re: Referance to airports and flying fields

Well kind of!
Firstly can I expect the local authorities contacting me for flying on my property?
And If I had MAAC membership and my small foam plane does damage a car of my neighbor will I be covered thru MAAC(flying on my property)?

thks
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