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| 03-18-2015 09:39 AM | |
| stegl |
Re: Questions about licensing Nice to read that there are those out there wanting to go by the rules. It will go a long way to have fav accepted by the rule makers. |
| 03-14-2015 07:33 PM | |
| Domination |
Re: Questions about licensing Yea I'm sure I will, just playing around with the cheap quads i have now ( a few cx-10's and a wltoys v686 g ) I'm having a blast the v686g has a camera and fpv monitor on it, doesn't work too bad for what it is but the fly time is pretty bad with the camera on and recording. Anyways thanks for all the info been a big help! |
| 03-14-2015 05:18 PM | |
| FD av8r |
Re: Questions about licensing Well said Although I am building an fpv plane....I am very interested in having equipment I could move to a mini quad for around the field fpv fun down the road. For now Im trying out my skills on RF7 playing with the quad with nose camera. Its a lot tougher than it looks but I shall get the hang of it. Daryll |
| 03-14-2015 04:59 PM | |
| bcsaltchucker |
Re: Questions about licensing The LoS principle as put forth by the Canadian Air Regulations is to ensure separation of model aircraft from fullsize aircraft. This is to meet the legal requirements set out in the Canadian Air Regulations requiring a model flyer have a visual watch so as 'not to be a hazard to other aircraft.' The great thing about miniquad flying is it is inherently about flying low and among objects, not anywhere fullsize aircraft will be flying - especially indoors or in a woods, where miniquad racing often takes place. So I would not lose a moment's sleep over flying FPV momentarily behind a woodshed or through a stand of trees where you know the area is secure. Or flying within my own house via FPV and no spotter - as many people do. BUt you certainly could not organize an event without spotters having full time eyes on the aircraft. That is not going to be accepted by Transport Canada nor by the insurance you should have as an organizer. The miniquad has really been a saving grace for FPV, imho. It simultaneously stopped the majority of FPVers from doing controversial long range/high altitude flying, and it has brought about an amazingly exciting way to experience flying, while also doing it in a smaller and smaller less risky package, that handles wind better than a 1/3 scale airplane. The old kind of FPV flying with Skywalkers and ~450 class multicopters is downright boring in comparison. And miniquads opens up a ton of venues where you could never fly an airplane at - even large backyards, or parking garages, and dense woods. They are still conplex and expensive model aircraft too, requiring more and more skill to build and operate at a high performance level. though I admit, I still fly FPV planes and love them more than miniquads still. Just on low power, and close by |
| 03-14-2015 03:28 PM | |
| mjohnson |
Re: Questions about licensing I know it kind of takes some of the intriguing points away from FPV but it is what it is. This has been talked about/debated to death on this and other forums but nonetheless we are bound to abide by it. When an FPV race course is laid out it will take LoS into consideration. Your spotter should still be able to see the quad. Thing is that if a course is laid out in a circular fashion with the pilot stations in the middle it can still cover a lot of real estate. You don't have to fly far away to still have a big challenge. Besides, when you crash you don't have a long walk of shame! It's still a huge amount of fun....you will enjoy it even LoS! |
| 03-14-2015 01:19 PM | |
| Domination |
Re: Questions about licensing Hmmm LoS rule? that would have been a good one to know pre buying FPV gear. I would love to read the full rules if anyone has them. I have never seen that one before thats for sure.  I knew flying in certain places was restricted and I knew you need HaM to run 250 Mw or better, but that one got me, how can you do FPV racing (if i were going to which i don't plan on doing atm anyways) if you have to keep it in LoS?
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| 03-14-2015 01:12 PM | |
| mjohnson |
Re: Questions about licensing Kevin Just so you are aware there are a number of government guidelines for your operation in place: http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/...eb_English.pdf Also MAAC has it's own set of guidelines which have not been posted to the new website or I would send you a link. Anyone else here have them archived? Basically one of the most important guideline is you need to adhere to "line of sight" which means keeping the machine visible to the naked eye. Salt is right when he says 250mw is lots. That is what I have on my quad and I can go to the extremes of where you can still see the 250 (not very far) visually without a glitch. Also, always fly with a spotter. If you are already familiar with legal FPV limitations, please disregard this advise! |
| 03-14-2015 12:35 PM | |
| Domination |
Re: Questions about licensing Thanks ! Yea I'm a noob so i won't be going far at first but hopefully with a little practice I can get out there a ways, and yea i just got the fatshark attitude SD's in the other day with some of their upgrade antennas, first flight I'm going to be pretty nervous but should be some good fun once i get comfortable. Still waiting a bit for a quad though might get the walkera qr x350 pro, seems fair for the price, flight range is pretty far, and time in the air is also good. Thats what i'm leaning towards anyways just waiting to get a little more cash together. Anyways thanks again for the info ! |
| 03-14-2015 12:02 PM | |
| bcsaltchucker |
Re: Questions about licensing yes there is no difference between the 250mW and 600mW, or even 1500mW in terms of legality However there is the HAM principle of not using more power than necessary. Believe me, for legal FPV flying, 250mW is PLENTY of power. You will not see a difference going to 600mW. Especially if you invest the best antennas (which you should). You are probably talking about Fatshark/Immersion gear here. The newest stuff they sell is all Nexwave, which is high quality precision equipment. It makes the 250mW unit perform excellently. Friend told me of a test they did - they put the 250mw unit and the 600mw unit on an aircraft, and they both lost signal at pretty much the same distance. Only reason I might suggest the 600mW unit is if you are doing some radical miniquad racing, flying very low behind objects where you might benefit from the extra penetrating power. I have had 800, 1000mW units. Now I fly almost exclusively with 200mW. And I have a 300mW (1280) unit that will go 5x as far as the ImmersionRC 600mW unit - not that I fly out that far. |
| 03-14-2015 09:40 AM | |
| Domination |
Re: Questions about licensing Thanks, one more thing, right now I only have a 250 mw transmitter, if i upgraded to a 600mw would I still be ok with the same license? |
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