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Nev 10-14-2009 09:05 AM

Feedback Please
 
Anyone tried one of these....http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/WRCIBEF.html


Positive Results here....
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...tle-thing.html

Positive Results here....
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...tml#post875426

shortkut 10-14-2009 09:33 AM

Re: Feedback Please
 
Wow Way Cool!

jake_027 10-14-2009 10:17 AM

Re: Feedback Please
 
That looks like a great setup.

MRLEE 10-14-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Feedback Please
 
That's is way cool, i wonder if it can be applied to a twin engine setup

michel gravelle 10-14-2009 05:00 PM

Re: Feedback Please
 
Hi

If I may add to this , IMHO . If I have an expensive model up in the air , I would much rather have an redundent system . I like the KISS system . It,s just another system that can break down and than again thats me .

Michel

YoungestPiperCub 10-17-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Feedback Please
 
I agree with Michel. If that fails you have big problems if you have seperate batteries more things can fail before your bringing the plane home in a bag. Still looks like a nice system just dunno if i like the idea of trusting all the electrics for the whole plane to one device.

IMO anyway

cheers!

Nev 10-17-2009 06:12 PM

Re: Feedback Please
 
I was hopping to get feedback from guys who have used it. Anyway you guys make me laugh. You all blindly trust your electonic radios and receivers to control your whole aircraft (have you seen how many radio recalls there have been over the years) I lost two planes to two bad radios years ago...! But you doubt this electronic device :)...

My final question is still what is the voltage that this device puts out...is it regulated or just reduced voltage under load....if it is regulated GREAT. I am sold if it is just going to reduce the voltage to the ignition by a small amount based on load (which appears to be the case) then I can not trust it...if running A123 at nomival 7.2v input...

Troybuilt told me it is 100% safe on the DL transmission but did not confirm how the output voltage is managed in the device...I will keep everyone posted.

Anyway here is some feedback I got from a guy that is using these in all his planes even a 150CC.

I would "definitely" recommend it..
My system is set up with two 5600mah Li-Ion 7.4v batteries feeding a Smart-Fly Turbo Reg. set at 6Volts, feeding a Smart-Fly EQ 10 Power Distribution System. It is a solid 6V feeding the IBEF.
I have not measured the output of the IBEF. Will be flying it the weekend of the 24th and will check it for you.
I have two more sitting on the shelf awaiting my new plane. I will "not" go back to a seperate ignition battery...... It did not make a difference in how the plane flew, but the ease of installing, one less battery to deal with and a cleaner install is a plus for me.
I have had an ignition battery take down a plane,
I dont see the IBEF as any more of a risk than a battery and Reg.
I do know TBM has one listed for the A123 pack, and their giving them away with the purchase of a DL engine. So I wouldn't be afraid of it.
I hope this helps,

Flybaby 10-17-2009 07:09 PM

Re: Feedback Please
 
After watching the video still couldn't tell how it could guarantee your model not to fall out of the sky from radio failure.
Knowing how many ma hours your batteries are good for before you fly makes sense.
How much simpler can it get than that?

moo 10-17-2009 11:44 PM

Re: Feedback Please
 
You could check the manual:

Quote:

The Ignition Battery Eliminator has Diode isolation in addition to huge filtering capabilities. What Diode isolation provides is a small voltage drop (0.4 — 1.0 Volts depending on the current). This has an added benefit of allowing 6.0V ignitions to run on 5-cell NiMh or NiCd or 2 cell Al23 batteries without regulation.
Or the disadvantage of ignition shutdown if you run a four cell receiver pack.

YoungestPiperCub 10-20-2009 09:56 AM

Re: Feedback Please
 
Hey Nev,

I did a little more digging for you as i felt I feel you took my comment the worng way. The only reason I trust my radio is because Without a radio i cant fly at all. I to have had glitches etc. My point is that everything electronic can fail so adding more electronics MAY make it more risky. Now I have no experience with this product however in doing some research i came across this response to a regulator question about sharing batteries for ignition and receiver by the owner of Smart Fly.

Here is his response.

Hi,
If ANYTHING goes wrong inside your electronic ignition module it can feed a LOT of noise back over the power wires into your receiver. Even these new "ignition power filters" will not filter out this noise if your ignition module has a component failure. I am sure these filters have never been tested on a bad ignition, and I know they have not been tested on all the types of failures an electronic ignition module can have. I would hate to see you loose a plane over 1 battery.

Now for whats its worth I to have thought about going single battery route but after posts like these from people whos job it is to make these products i feel leary about doing it so I decided to keep my ignition isolated. I hope this bvetter explains my reasoning behind my previous post.

I hope I didn't offend you or anyone.

Sincerely,

Kevin King

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...super-reg.html

Here is the link to that particular post.


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