[Randy Brown]

You surley just won the Idot award for 2009

Originally Posted by adaptabl

All you have to do is turn the page if you don't like it.

[Randy Brown]

Well I dont get the mag Marc but I trully know why your saying it and strongly agree with you 100% this time , Matter of fact my father was hired many years ago and one of the reason was to muscle out the red and white in our area.

Randy

Originally Posted by Sharpy01

Depending on the response from their editor, I may have purchased my final FLY RC mag.

Page 91 of the current issue is a full page ad from "empirerc" which prominently displays a play on the Hell's Angels, "Heli's Angels". Besides the stupid suggestion that a criminal organization is somehow helpful to that young man's future in flying model heli's, it's offensive to folks who understand and see the effects of what the hells angels are all about.

Most are not likely that educated on the matter, but the gentlemen standing behind that young man appear to wearing bona-fide angel patches and logos. ONLY actual members/supporters of that criminal organization would dare to do so.

......nice. The angels are probably the most powerful criminal organization in Canada, controlling much of the illegal drug trade with interests in anything illegal that nets them profit. They would much rather sell the young man in that photo crystal meth or give him up as "collateral damage" in one of their turf wars, than support his hobby interests. They also have an active P.R. campaign to try and win public favor and support and associating themselves with our hobby doesn't hurt the campaign.

I hope this is just a case of being naive. Regardless of the mags response, the red flags should be up on "empire Rc". Do what you want, but none of my money will ever go their way.

[Dave Holmes]

Well, I saw the ad, and I could not for sure identify anyone there as a Hells Angel. I somehow missed seeing their 'colors' displayed anywhere. All I saw was a bunch of possible wannabe bad ass bikers, like I can see outside any Timmies on a summer afternoon. Dumb ad, for sure, but I didn't see anyhting to give me offense. Maybe I didn't look close enough. In any case I think if you spend that much time peering at an advertisement, you probably need more to do.

[Sharpy01]

Originally Posted by Dave Holmes

Well, I saw the ad, and I could not for sure identify anyone there as a Hells Angel. I somehow missed seeing their 'colors' displayed anywhere. All I saw was a bunch of possible wannabe bad ass bikers, like I can see outside any Timmies on a summer afternoon. Dumb ad, for sure, but I didn't see anyhting to give me offense. Maybe I didn't look close enough. In any case I think if you spend that much time peering at an advertisement, you probably need more to do.

No, I'm quite certain I don't need more to do. With all due respect Dave, the "death head" logo on most of the vests are worn ONLY by the angels and the response from the company I posted leaves little doubt if there was any.

Regardless, I will move on, ....... too many other things to do.

[shortkut]

That is very sad!

[ccaamm1]

Are you sure it wasn't a Detroit Red Wings logo? Those "bad ass" hockey players can be an evil bunch too.

[Pangaea]

Originally Posted by adaptabl

All you have to do is turn the page if you don't like it.

Surely, you show your ignorance in different threads.

[mtnflyer]

Usually, paid actors are used in this type of thing. I was once paid 75.00 to appear in a fridge commercial. No way was I a professional actor; just after the 75 bucks.

I don't think it's a Hells Angel (synonymous with I'm a crabs riddled coward), I think its a model. They get paid for what they do. Just some idiot advertising outfit trying out a worthless adventure to attract your open wallet.

They should have used a true-blood Red Neck, and probably things would have sold.

[Guest]

Originally Posted by mtnflyer

Usually, paid actors are used in this type of thing. I was once paid 75.00 to appear in a fridge commercial. No way was I a professional actor; just after the 75 bucks.

I don't think it's a Hells Angel (synonymous with I'm a crabs riddled coward), I think its a model. They get paid for what they do. Just some idiot advertising outfit trying out a worthless adventure to attract your open wallet.

They should have used a true-blood Red Neck, and probably things would have sold.

I have to agree with Marc on this one. First the club is very strict about usage of their logo, it is even copyrighted. I read somewhere they had initiated a lawsuit against a company that used it without permission. There can be severe health problems for anyone who attempts to impersonate membership so I doubt these are actors. I think the reason given for using them as tongue in cheek is a load of bull and a poor attempt at covering for a lack of judgment on behalf of Empire RC. Remember you don’t casually insult the Hells Angels either. It was most likely opportunistic and they were asked to pose with the young man. I actually sent an email to see what the response would be and it was word for word the same as Marc’s. As Marc has said two differing agendas without much thought on the part of Empire’s staff. Good grief actually agreeing with Marc now I have to go brush my teeth, rinse my mouth and gargle.

Dennis

[ronnieo]

Hahhhaaaahaaa...oh Dennie....