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11-29-2014, 09:05 AM | #161 |
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Re: New Transport Canada UAS/Drone Guidelines
Sharpy you did not explain it slowly enough they still won't get it.
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11-29-2014, 01:31 PM | #163 | |
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Re: New Transport Canada UAS/Drone Guidelines
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Just does not seem all that consistent with the TC press release of seeming suggestions for model pilots. I suspected the release was not a reflection of real changes to the model regulations, just a list of suggestions to pressure new multicopter pilots to behave better. I do not know for sure that those suggestions will be used as hard and fast guidelines or not. I hope and suspect they will not be enforced in such a way to impact my own kind of flying and those of my friends (full range of experience among them from newbies to 3 guys who were maac club presidents). |
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Now Mark would like us to help him out by talking to our local MPs! Deep down I don't think Marc is any more confident that all is well than we are. Yes I have answered the survey on the TC website as someone suggested and you know what? They are not asking for our opinion on the proposed guidelines, all they want is our opinion on how well their website works! I'm not very confident that change of any kind is an option. I suspect they have done all the consulting they plan to do. I think Marc has it right that the most effective avenue now is through our MPs.
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11-30-2014, 09:31 AM | #165 | |
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I am sure our representative is doing everything he can to properly represent us and why would he not report everything verbatim to the MAAC executive. Sharpy doesn’t claim to speak for MAAC he’s offering an opinion and some assumptions from what he’s gathered. I don’t find fault with that and keeping it simple I would have thought would have made it easier for you to comprehend the gist of what has transpired so far. Is there room for improvement in the wording? Absolutely. Is the wording final? I doubt it but if anyone can have input on the outcome or improvement in the wording I think MAAC is the best bet at this time. That alone is worth the price of admission. Perhaps you feel MAAC should be kicking down doors and roughing up members of Transport Canada to get what you want. Like I said if you have a better idea please make it known, any constructive (note the use of the word constructive) opinions or ideas would be appreciated by all. I don’t have much faith in what an MP is willing to do for such a small wide spread group. In my limited past experience MP’s are driven by the opinions of the majority of concerned constituents or the weight of public opinion. The small number of modelers and the lack of ability to garner mass public support for our side make us a group easily ignored. MAAC is still our best bet in representing us. I don’t see any reason for an organization of any kind not to lobby aggressively on behalf of its membership. I do think its counter productive for members to bitch that they are not doing enough when they don’t offer any better solutions. |
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Re: New Transport Canada UAS/Drone Guidelines
While doing a search for what Transport Canada defines as a "Built up area" I discovered this: http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/...ac-600-004.pdf
There are "Notes" giving a brief explanation of the purpose of each section. I am not looking for loopholes, I am trying to understand what I can and can't do. |
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11-30-2014, 06:10 PM | #167 |
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Re: New Transport Canada UAS/Drone Guidelines
"should be ok", "nothing is likely to change" and "the intention was not to"
Hmm, These terms don't seem to fit that document! Lets hope that Lazy Ace is right and MAAC has it all under control!
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11-30-2014, 07:10 PM | #168 |
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Sounds pretty specific and simple to me after reading it over.
All RC aircraft are UAV’s by definition The contents of the document exclude model aircraft for recreational use 35 kilos or less. Models exceeding 35 kilos must apply for a SFOC regardless of their intended use. The document deals only with the requirements for non recreational UAV’s. It would seem at least to me the concern is with the commercial aspect. For those operators of UAV’s that fall under the exclusions for a SFOC are still going to have to be very careful and provide proof of insurance of $100000. |
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Neither exemption applies to model aircraft. Model aircraft are defined as for recreational use only. If a "vehicle" is used for recreation and stays under the 35Kg limit it can be defined as a model aircraft. As soon as you use a "vehicle" for commercial use it becomes a UAV and is subject to the new AC but can be operated under the 2 exemptions. So you can have the same "vehicle" defined as a model aircraft (recreational use) or UAV (commercial use) depending on what you are doing with it. If you are under the 25Kg limit then you can operate the UAV in accordance with one of the two exemptions granted by TC. Above 25Kg you need a SFOC. An SFOC is also required for a model aircraft operating above the 35Kg limit. Above I put vehicle in quotation marks ("") so as not to use the terms "Model Aircraft" and "UAV" which have their own definitions. So - model aircraft are not affected by this AC UAVs are affected but can operate under one of the two exemptions from TC up to a max weight of 25Kg. above 25Kg a SFOC is needed. In flying our models at our usual flying sites we are not affected by these provisions until we start commercial operations (Hire and reward). Hope this makes it clear. Mark.
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12-01-2014, 06:34 AM | #170 |
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Re: New Transport Canada UAS/Drone Guidelines
Ok, but the 300 foot ceiling still applies to us regular guys. Correct?
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