[Guest]

Guys, please understand, this is just my opinion, for around $200 to $400 more, there are turbines in the 30lb thrust range, when you're talking $2350US, for another 10% or so, I'd rather get the bigger engine.
Jetcat is the Chevy of turbines, they don't make as much thrust as others, but they are reliable. They'll go forever, I have nothing against them, and their service and support is great. I just don't see the logic in the P80, it's just my personal opinion though and everyone is free to make their own decisions.

[kev-o]

the p70 already is unless you gotta have one they may make it for you the p80 i believe is the same size as my 120se ??? i believe any of the new 100s are abt 100 or so dollars more and lighter so why would anyone spend a smidge less for more weight and less thrust, just my opinion i own a wren,jetcat and pst and wren service is up there too, have no experience with pst yet but kelly is a great source of knowledge that we have in our back yard...

[luv2flyrc]

Originally Posted by kev-o

i believe any of the new 100s are abt 100 or so dollars more and lighter so why would anyone spend a smidge less for more weight and less thrust, .

I need to know where you fellows are shopping, I don't see any of the discussed turbines for a $100 or so dollars more?

Jet Central Cheetah is $3K, Jets Munt Merlin 140 is $2850 (pre-orders only), No price for Wren 100 but, Super Sport is $2795 so, would expect new 100 to be more.

These engines are $500 to $700 more than a P-80se, not a $100 or so more.

Mike

[Alex29]

BlackMamba for 2595$ 30lbs (was 5 years now Lifetime warranty)
ATJ 120TI for 2295$ 28lbs (2 years warranty)
Merlin for 2800$ (from the manual``the warranty period for the Merlin 160G is 1 year from the date of purchase, or 25 running hours, whichever comes first.)
JetCentral Cheetah 2995$ - 150$ store credit or 100$ cash rebate or even a free flameout value of 185$ from some vendors... (Lifetime warranty)

[luv2flyrc]

Originally Posted by Alex29

BlackMamba for 2595$ 30lbs (was 5 years now Lifetime warranty)
ATJ 120TI for 2295$ 28lbs (2 years warranty)
Merlin for 2800$ (from the manual``the warranty period for the Merlin 160G is 1 year from the date of purchase, or 25 running hours, whichever comes first.)
JetCentral Cheetah 2995$ - 150$ store credit or 100$ cash rebate or even a free flameout value of 185$ from some vendors... (Lifetime warranty)

Alex, the first two on your list are Asian turbines, ATJ I believe is Chinese, hardly an apples to apples comparison to Jetcat. The other's are as I stated, far more expensive than a P-80se. Discounts are available on Jetcat's through their dealers as well.

My point is, there is no other quality turbine(read European) at the $2300 price range that puts out 22lbs of thrust.

Mike

[Alex29]

Originally Posted by LGM Graphix

I'm sorry, but an engine that is that size, and weight, and only produces 21lbs of thrust, compared to today's engine is a dated design. The SE might be a new version, but it's ridiculous to have an engine that size and weight only making that much thrust, particularly when it's the same money or more than other manufactures turbines that produce 10lbs more thrust.

It is a very reliable engine, but with so many options out there for better power, less weight, same or better price and from reputable manufactures, I can't understand why anyone would buy a P80 anymore, SE or otherwise.

Maybe this explain their lower price..

The closest in price range would be a Behotec J66 with 50hrs before service with 2 years warranty..

[kev-o]

Wren USA website wren100 2495.00
Buy what you like it makes no difference to me just giving my opinion

[powerjets]

Originally Posted by Alex29

Maybe this explain their lower price..

The closest in price range would be a Behotec J66 with 50hrs before service with 2 years warranty..

How much trust is that one?

[Alex29]

If i remember correctly, it's 21 pounds..

[HELLFIRE]

Originally Posted by Alex29

If i remember correctly, it's 21 pounds..

Thats what is listed on the site but on the turbine comparison chart I have (real test data) it shows it putting out 19.1lbs unless there is a newer version ... the one tested was a j66-hp.