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10-11-2010, 08:13 PM | #91 | |
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what happened did no one enjoy my post? i thought I`d post as a view from the other side. enlighten on all the work people go threw to put a race on for everyone. You have no idea the time and work put into something until you do it. It really puts thing into perspective when you have to do it yourself.
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10-11-2010, 10:05 PM | #92 |
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Ummm I have read your post a couple of times and can't make heads or tails of it. Was it directed towards track owners??? No offense but it seemed like you were rambling on, maybe try rephrasing it all.
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10-12-2010, 06:29 AM | #93 |
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I know most look at having a race as a cash grab for the track. They have never had to put the work in to actually hold a race. They just see it as this many people x $$$ = big pay day. No one actually thinks about how much actual time Track owners spend preparing for, running, and cleaning up after having a race.
When you compare it to other attractions to just go view, I don’t think the fees charged are unreasonable. The intent was to support Track owners and shed some light on all the work they do to hold these races. Sorry for the confusion.
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10-12-2010, 07:18 AM | #94 |
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I for one dont think of it as a cash grab at all.$50.00 for a weekends entertainment is pretty damn cheap if you ask me.Considering most tracks allow overnight onsite camping.You cant stay at a campgrounds for 2 nights for $50.00 hardly anymore.Let alone run your nitro RC's around.LOL.But on the other hand it is also nice to see the tracks putting some effort in to getting draw prizes and trophies as well.I have been to a few races that there were no prizes or trophies and you do leave feeling kind of put off a bit.They are a nice little bonus.I also think that most of us have a pretty good understanding of what goes into building and maintaining a track and holding a large race.If it was that easy we would all have tracks in our backyards and have big races every weekend.
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10-12-2010, 09:32 AM | #95 |
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Most track owners put the work into this hobby for the love of it and couldn't put a monetary value on the work they put into it. This is a hobby that we are all involved in. When people start charging money based on the amount of work they put into it, it starts to take away from the true meaning behind why most guys are involved in the first place. If tracks operated under the idea that they just wanted to make sure they covered all expenses we could keep entrance fees down. I have seen a lot of tracks come and go over the last 20 years, it is clear that running a track as business is just not something that is going to last over the long run. Having a track needs to be fueled by the passion behind this hobby
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10-12-2010, 06:30 PM | #96 |
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In terms of using someone elses land and facilities for 3 days, I'd say we've got it pretty damned good.
Pretend for a moment you own all your own paintball equipment, and found some strange place that lets you use your own paintballs as well. How much do you think you'd pay to play there for 3 days straight? Pretty sure it would be something like $25 to $30 per day. |
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10-12-2010, 07:44 PM | #98 |
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Almost $20 to see a movie.
Avg movie is 100 min long. GLORCS race is 3 days.
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10-12-2010, 09:25 PM | #100 |
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I'm not sure where my point got derailed, but let me clarify something about the tracks charging 'X' amount for their race fees...
As a racer myself, I know that racers seem to have a sixth-sense for the amount of effort that went into a tracks preparation, and as long as the effort is made by the tracks (and it typically is), than the racers WON'T have any issue paying the GLORCS maximum. It's just that simple. Furthermore, tracks are typically run by people with at least some racing experience, so they should know what racers like, want, and expect. Racers recognize hard work on the part of the tracks. No two tracks or facilities are the same, and that's completely understandable. Just because so n' so has this that, or the other thing, DOESN'T MEAN that the other tracks have to have it too. It's more a question of whether the fees reflect this, that, or the other thing. If say, a track isn't able to offer hydro, then perhaps they could offer more of this or that, larger trophies, air conditioned porta-potties, people to feed grapes to the racers while they wrench, etc. If they do other things instead, then nobody will have reason to complain. Tracks are at liberty to charge what they feel is fair. Both to the racers, but also to themselves. They simply have to use their judgment when it comes to this. It's a sensitive topic that can ultimately reflect on their reputation, and that's entirely their responsibility. There isn't a track on the 2011 schedule that isn't worth the maximum fees in my opinion, providing they do the work in preparation for the race. It's also important that tracks all exert approximately the same amount of effort in preparing for their GLORCS race. If they don't, then the potential for a "why should we? They didn't do it and made just as much money as we did at our race" scenario, is frighteningly high. This is a very real and potentially scary problem. It's now my responsibility to make sure it doesn't happen because if it does, than shining stars could quickly fade. If you doubt my theory, think of it this way...2-3 years ago you couldn't go to a GLORCS race and not expect there to be a t-shirt illustrating that particular GLORCS race right? Did anyone get a GLORCS shirt in 2009? Think about what I've already said, and how it might apply to even this simple t-shirt scenario. To wrap this up, when energy and moral is up, then everything else goes up with it. Tracks are better when people recognize their efforts and compliment them on what an amazing job they did hosting the GLORCS race. GLORCS racers are better when they get to race at those well prepared tracks, and are content to pay slightly higher fees to do so. Everyone wins! |
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