[icanfly]

interesting, thanks for talking about the hc3sx's variables. My plan is for a Skookum 720 on a 700e.

Now, getting to the "lost orientation" bit, a few days ago I was having trouble with a boom on my widdle 300x that would slide out and tighten the belt thus causing the gyro to fail due to the drag on the motor and the extra amps it took to turn it. I pushed it in and put a drop of locktite blue to loosen the belt and seize the boom in place (the screws on the tail block weren't enough. I didn't check to see how much tail authority I had before doing a pitch pump which is what I do when getting it off the ground. There it was twirling around more than once totally unexpected leaving me in an instant huh what next moment.

When you do your orientations it's good practice to slowly piro the heli working on your weakest orientation the most, all the others become easy. I'm finding more and more guys have a weak spot in their flying, it's something I'm aware of in my own experience but did not know how many other people have similar problems, it's an inbred human brain habit thing.

What happened to my 300? The instant it reached about 12 ft up and was revolved2.5 times I STOPPED, yup STOP, don't freak, STOP, take a second to see where it is heading and QUICKLY re-acquaint yourself with the stick orientation.

I've been forced to recover in my back yard flight practice days almost every time I do. I have neighbors and don't want to go begging for my downed heli so I HAVE GOT TO RECOVER IT WHILE AIRBORNE, and it has caused a few thumping heartbeats for real. I'm just getting ready to 3d hehe.

In short, practice putting the heli in orientations you are not confident with. The heli WILL from time to time be in an orientation you do not expect. Once you condition your self to EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED, your fear of recovery will be managed and you will KNOW WHAT TO DO with the sticks.

Helis can be very good ANGER MANAGEMENT tools to CALM DOWN.

[Colin]

Originally Posted by gixerfien

ooohhh no, that sucksss.

throttle hold baby, throttle hold lol.

I've never been one to trust bail outs either. Never tried one either but have seen em in action

The way I thrash the heli, bailout is too late already for me haha

I couldn't agree more! I've balled up a lot of helis in the last 15 years, and the amount of potential re-kits that ended up being only minor is huge because of this. If you can hit t-hold before it goes in you will save a lot of equipment/parts. The electric motors we use have a massive amount of torque for the chassis they sit in. If that torque is 0 when it hits, you'd be surprised how much it saves.

Eventually it becomes second nature.

Colin

[Max]

Originally Posted by Colin

I couldn't agree more! I've balled up a lot of helis in the last 15 years, and the amount of potential re-kits that ended up being only minor is huge because of this. If you can hit t-hold before it goes in you will save a lot of equipment/parts. The electric motors we use have a massive amount of torque for the chassis they sit in. If that torque is 0 when it hits, you'd be surprised how much it saves.

Eventually it becomes second nature.

Colin

To add to that, throttle hold drills are mandatory. I tell every heli flier at my club to make the landing at the end of each flight a TH landing. Even if you are a beginner, it doesn't take much. Just bring it in to a hover about 1' off the ground and hit the TH. It will also teach you not to fear the flare on touchdown. That way it keeps your hand-eye response to TH sharp. If you are not already doing this, you should start and make it a habit for every flight.

[dashpuppy]

Originally Posted by Max

To add to that, throttle hold drills are mandatory. I tell every heli flier at my club to make the landing at the end of each flight a TH landing. Even if you are a beginner, it doesn't take much. Just bring it in to a hover about 1' off the ground and hit the TH. It will also teach you not to fear the flare on touchdown. That way it keeps your hand-eye response to TH sharp. If you are not already doing this, you should start and make it a habit for every flight.

That's how I always land, except about 1 meter up

[tporter416]

Originally Posted by Max

To add to that, throttle hold drills are mandatory. I tell every heli flier at my club to make the landing at the end of each flight a TH landing. Even if you are a beginner, it doesn't take much. Just bring it in to a hover about 1' off the ground and hit the TH. It will also teach you not to fear the flare on touchdown. That way it keeps your hand-eye response to TH sharp. If you are not already doing this, you should start and make it a habit for every flight.

I do that as well, however I occasionally do it out of habit with my 130X or mcpx BL, they don't autorotate well... A fun game with an mcpx or nano, hit throttle hold, then release the hold and keep it from hitting the ground...

Tom

[dashpuppy]

Originally Posted by tporter416

I do that as well, however I occasionally do it out of habit with my 130X or mcpx BL, they don't autorotate well... A fun game with an mcpx or nano, hit throttle hold, then release the hold and keep it from hitting the ground...

Tom

yeah, that usually helps you buy a new gear

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The 'JETI' is killing them all !!!

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