[bbbair]

In Belleville On;

http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/12/30/fi...lying-is-hard/



December 30, 2015 8:10am


We’re going to be hearing a lot of stories about drone accidents in the next couple of years. As we discussed last week, just because you have a new drone at home doesn’t mean you should be flying it around without proper precautions. As ordinary people start to hear more about accidents involving drones, regulations will get tighter and common sense regarding associated risks will be ignored.

In news out of Belleville, ON, comes one of the first drone/vehicle accidents we’ve heard of. Nobody was injured when a drone fell out of the sky and hit the front of a moving car on Monday morning, causing $1000 of damage to the car. No charges were laid under the Highway Traffic Act, as rules are still being written to regulate the use of drones in public property.

As drones can be very tricky to fly, and they rely on wireless connections to control, Transport Canada has laid out a few guidelines for their recreational use. The authorities recommend staying at least nine kilometres away from airports, staying below 90 metres, and trying to keep 150 metres away from people and buildings. In a populated area, that last stipulation will certainly prove the most difficult.

As drones gain in popularity, we’ll surely see an upswing in accidents involving the small aircraft. The novelty of the gadgets surely adds to concerns over their potential dangers, while in reality there are certainly going to be much easier and more common ways to cause damage to property. Once regulations are sorted out, we’ll get a much better view of how the future of drones will go.

[bbbair]

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news...-225452-1.html

Police in Belleville, Ontario, said Tuesday they can't find any laws to apply against the operator of a drone that was in a head-on collision with a car last Monday. The aircraft hit the grill of the vehicle, which was traveling on a country road, and caused about $1,000 in damage. There were no injuries. The aircraft appears to have been operated legally under Transport Canada's rules, too. The operator was found but Belleville Police Sgt. Kosta Brindakis told the CBC that there was no legal recourse for police. "Quite honestly, we're not sure what may apply," he said.

Highway laws don't apply and the collision was an accident so sections of Canadian law dealing with vandalism and mischief didn't work either. However, he said civil action could result. Brindakis suggested lawmakers will have to address this sort of mishap sooner rather than later. "It's the first [drone vs. vehicle crash] I've heard of — and it probably won't be the last," Brindakis said. "It's not a specific big problem right now, but there's all kinds of scenarios that could come up."

[Cougar429]

It does not provide much detail as to location or conditions at the time of the occurrence, nor identity of the drone.

Although it does not take much to add up to $1000 damage to a vehicle today, knowing the make/model would help determine the size and weight and if any supplementary systems.

Still, it seems to reinforce my statements that the operators cognizant of the rules, (and simple common sense) will not be the ones that force a regulation change detrimental to us all. It will be the ignorant, stupid or illegal.

Left hanging in the way of details so cannot say if this proves the single-failure problem.

[Midair]

From the limited details, it would appear that not only drone operators need to be educated, but police services as well.

Peter

[Max]

Originally Posted by Cougar429

It does not provide much detail as to location or conditions at the time of the occurrence, nor identity of the drone.

Although it does not take much to add up to $1000 damage to a vehicle today, knowing the make/model would help determine the size and weight and if any supplementary systems.

Still, it seems to reinforce my statements that the operators cognizant of the rules, (and simple common sense) will not be the ones that force a regulation change detrimental to us all. It will be the ignorant, stupid or illegal.

Left hanging in the way of details so cannot say if this proves the single-failure problem.

Agreed.

Also, why is this in the FPV section? Can anyone say for sure it was being flown using FPV gear?

Should go in the Multirotor section. If it was indeed a multrotor. They way things are going, any flying model is now being called a "drone" by the common public, whether its being flown FPV, line of sight, airplane, multirotor...

For all we know, some guy was flying his foam supercub and lost control and crashed...

[reo]

I've asked this in a different thread here on RCC recently and I'll ask it here again....of what benefit is it to our hobby (RC planes, not drones) to continue to post this stuff and continually bringing negative attention, unfortunately,to the whole hobby in general?

[Max]

Its not a bad thing to raise the topic to spread awareness.

Its when the chicken little's start chiming in with their "sky is falling" rants that serves no purpose. Unfortunately, it happens all too often on all these types of threads.

[davidmc36]

Is posting in this "closed" forum really bringing it to the attention of the public any more than the on-line story in the first place?

[Midair]

Originally Posted by reo

I've asked this in a different thread here on RCC recently and I'll ask it here again....of what benefit is it to our hobby (RC planes, not drones) to continue to post this stuff and continually bringing negative attention, unfortunately,to the whole hobby in general?

...on the off chance that someone not familiar with regs and guidelines becomes more educated and careful about their operations.

...on the off chance that someone, even if they are familiar with the regs and guidelines and frequent RCC, realise that the general R/C public, whether aircraft, quad, drone, FPV, helo etc., frown upon reckless and dangerous behaviour.

Self policing and regulation, although not all encompassing, will go a long way to keep the hobby enjoyable and strip away much of the negative connotations and poor reputation that "drones" are developing.

Peter



Peter

[Eye Can Fly]

Peter, I agree with you. Better than a thread titled "I flew three flights yesterday and nothing happened , but I enjoyed myself." Lots of those threads on here.