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captn dave · 11-30-2006, 05:06 AM

Hi all. I'm new here and looking to purchase a Sim or heli not sure which first.
Never flown before not interested in fancy flying, just getting it up in the air and hoovering. no upside down stuff. It makes me dizzy
How is the MS flight sim different from using the real flight G3 sim.
Could I use a 4,6,or 9 channel controller with the MS flight sim 2003
or am I talking apple to oranges here

Canhos · 11-30-2006, 10:54 AM

It's kinda apples and pineapples actually.

You can get some cheap ones off the net, a couple demos are available.

If you want to learn to fly RC, you need an RC sim. If your into full scale, then MS sim is the one.

Real Flight has a demo, it is one of the popular ones. It's available here.
http://www.realflight.com/free-g3-demo.html

FS One is Hangar 9's sim, there are a couple other ones out there as well, hopefully someone else will post them.

Welcome to RCCanada,

captn dave · 11-30-2006, 01:15 PM

Thanks Mike for the info. Yes, I just want to learn RC Heli only. Would LIKE TO FLY A TREX 600 SOME DAY
What do you think about Buying the Blade CP RTF and then down loading a free RC flight program, then using the Blade CP RTF CONTROLLER to operate the free download program?

captn dave · 11-30-2006, 01:42 PM

Am I really glad i downloaded the demo Realflight simG3.
I tried it out and when the cessna took off I lost it, it went out of view. It was sooo far away i couldnt see it anymore, I could only hear it in the far distance. If im going to fly i want to see the aircraft up close. Is there something im missing?
Thanks

Canhos · 11-30-2006, 02:16 PM

It's actually a good thing for learning.

It forces you to do turnaround maneuvers, and these are where new guy's always have trouble.

In the sims, you can set it to zoom a bit. Default settings, the planes get smaller alot quicker than they do in real life.

The Blade CP is not easy to learn on. ( I have one, and I have spent the price of a good Trex on learning to fly it, the Trex would have been alot better to start with) The Blade CX is good to learn orientation with. I know a couple of guy's who have gone from the Blade CX right into a 50 sized heli. Once they learned to hover the 50 around, they get a T-rex 400. In less than a year, they are flying them around. One guy is even starting to do loops and rolls.

The 3 guy's I'm specifically thinking of all used simulators alot. Realflight G3, and Aerofly ( http://www.aerofly.com/ ). FS one has just been realeased, with mixed reports from people I've spoken to.

It may be an idea to edit your thread title. Just go to your first post, hit edit, and change it to something about "selecting a good simulator for helis" or something!

captn dave · 11-30-2006, 02:44 PM

Thanks Again Michael for the feed back.
It looks like a Blade CX $250 and a G3 $350. to get started. wow!
before I get into the big ones
thanks

*David McMillan* · 03-27-2007, 10:52 PM

Yep. I'd go with the g3.5, though there are a few technical issues importing aircraft and you'd better have a graphics co-processor.

Other than that it's helped a whole lot!

I fly a CP pro and went through three sets of blades to accomplish 30 seconds of flying. Since the sim, I'm up to a couple munites per set.

Personally I consider that progress!

djm

rscamp · 03-29-2007, 07:05 PM

The Phoenix sim is also good for helis.

Oshawapilot · 04-10-2007, 08:52 PM

FMS is free and you can pickup a "mockup" transmitter that will connect to your computer and work with it at alot of local hobby shops.

(eBay can be cheaper yet - I bought mine from a guy in Scarborough for $25 cash through eBay...)

FMS is by far one of the most primitive simulators out there but it is a usefull training tool regardless...and the software itself is *free*. Just Google "flying model simulator or FMS and you'll find it.

It's all I used when learning heli this past winter - I spent alot of time on it learning side in and nose in (two of the biggest steps after the hover) and it got me really far really fast.

I start flying heli not much before Christmas...and today I was outside doing fast forward flight and figure 8's in the wind.

I've used G3 and several other simulators and there's no question that the graphics and physics are exponentially better then FMS, but for the basics (orientation and such) FMS works well.

It does aircraft and Heli's.

JimMcIntyre · 04-11-2007, 06:10 AM

I had Realflight, sold it and bought Reflex, no looking back, hands down better.

http://www.helihobby.com/html/reflex...simulator.html

11-30-2006, 05:06 AM	#1
captn dave Join Date: Nov 2006 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 10 Total Props: 0	"selecting a good simulator for helis" Remove this ad - become a site supporter! Hi all. I'm new here and looking to purchase a Sim or heli not sure which first. Never flown before not interested in fancy flying, just getting it up in the air and hoovering. no upside down stuff. It makes me dizzy How is the MS flight sim different from using the real flight G3 sim. Could I use a 4,6,or 9 channel controller with the MS flight sim 2003 or am I talking apple to oranges here
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11-30-2006, 10:54 AM	#2
Canhos RCC Pro Contributor I am: Mike Gyger Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chilliwack BC Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 1,563 Total Props: 0	It's kinda apples and pineapples actually. You can get some cheap ones off the net, a couple demos are available. If you want to learn to fly RC, you need an RC sim. If your into full scale, then MS sim is the one. Real Flight has a demo, it is one of the popular ones. It's available here. http://www.realflight.com/free-g3-demo.html FS One is Hangar 9's sim, there are a couple other ones out there as well, hopefully someone else will post them. Welcome to RCCanada, __________________ Michael Gyger MAAC 58295
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11-30-2006, 02:16 PM	#5
Canhos RCC Pro Contributor I am: Mike Gyger Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chilliwack BC Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 1,563 Total Props: 0	It's actually a good thing for learning. It forces you to do turnaround maneuvers, and these are where new guy's always have trouble. In the sims, you can set it to zoom a bit. Default settings, the planes get smaller alot quicker than they do in real life. The Blade CP is not easy to learn on. ( I have one, and I have spent the price of a good Trex on learning to fly it, the Trex would have been alot better to start with) The Blade CX is good to learn orientation with. I know a couple of guy's who have gone from the Blade CX right into a 50 sized heli. Once they learned to hover the 50 around, they get a T-rex 400. In less than a year, they are flying them around. One guy is even starting to do loops and rolls. The 3 guy's I'm specifically thinking of all used simulators alot. Realflight G3, and Aerofly ( http://www.aerofly.com/ ). FS one has just been realeased, with mixed reports from people I've spoken to. It may be an idea to edit your thread title. Just go to your first post, hit edit, and change it to something about "selecting a good simulator for helis" or something! __________________ Michael Gyger MAAC 58295
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03-29-2007, 07:05 PM	#8
rscamp RCC Expert Contributor I am: Rob C Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dundas, ON Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 864 Total Props: 0	The Phoenix sim is also good for helis. __________________ Rob A day without sunshine is like ...night.
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04-11-2007, 06:10 AM	#10
JimMcIntyre RCC Supreme Contributor I am: Jim McIntyre Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Claremont Ontario Radio of choice: JR/Spectrum # of RCs: 999 Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 4,343 Total Props: 1	I had Realflight, sold it and bought Reflex, no looking back, hands down better. http://www.helihobby.com/html/reflex...simulator.html __________________ ScaleBuilder MAAC# 12719 6EQUJ5 WOW!! Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere - (If it ain't broke, don't fix it).
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11-30-2006, 01:15 PM	#3
captn dave Join Date: Nov 2006 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 10 Total Props: 0	Thanks Mike for the info. Yes, I just want to learn RC Heli only. Would LIKE TO FLY A TREX 600 SOME DAY What do you think about Buying the Blade CP RTF and then down loading a free RC flight program, then using the Blade CP RTF CONTROLLER to operate the free download program?
	.

11-30-2006, 01:42 PM	#4
captn dave Join Date: Nov 2006 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 10 Total Props: 0	Am I really glad i downloaded the demo Realflight simG3. I tried it out and when the cessna took off I lost it, it went out of view. It was sooo far away i couldnt see it anymore, I could only hear it in the far distance. If im going to fly i want to see the aircraft up close. Is there something im missing? Thanks
	.

11-30-2006, 02:44 PM	#6
captn dave Join Date: Nov 2006 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 10 Total Props: 0	Thanks Again Michael for the feed back. It looks like a Blade CX $250 and a G3 $350. to get started. wow! before I get into the big ones thanks
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03-27-2007, 10:52 PM	#7
David McMillan !!! CONFIRM YOUR ACCOUNT !!! I am: David M Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mississaug, Ont. Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 134 Total Props: 1	Yep. I'd go with the g3.5, though there are a few technical issues importing aircraft and you'd better have a graphics co-processor. Other than that it's helped a whole lot! I fly a CP pro and went through three sets of blades to accomplish 30 seconds of flying. Since the sim, I'm up to a couple munites per set. Personally I consider that progress! djm
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04-10-2007, 08:52 PM	#9
Oshawapilot RCC Contributor I am: Mark M Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: GTA Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 302 Total Props: 0	FMS is free and you can pickup a "mockup" transmitter that will connect to your computer and work with it at alot of local hobby shops. (eBay can be cheaper yet - I bought mine from a guy in Scarborough for $25 cash through eBay...) FMS is by far one of the most primitive simulators out there but it is a usefull training tool regardless...and the software itself is free. Just Google "flying model simulator or FMS and you'll find it. It's all I used when learning heli this past winter - I spent alot of time on it learning side in and nose in (two of the biggest steps after the hover) and it got me really far really fast. I start flying heli not much before Christmas...and today I was outside doing fast forward flight and figure 8's in the wind. I've used G3 and several other simulators and there's no question that the graphics and physics are exponentially better then FMS, but for the basics (orientation and such) FMS works well. It does aircraft and Heli's.
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