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jbr · 12-10-2005, 03:39 PM

Cruising through websites and noticed Lorne Hanson 1/4 Cub (Vernon, BC) had a canoe mounted on the right float. I'm in the midst of Balsa USA Cub and Sig float kits. Have purchased the Midwest Indian Girl canoe kit (about 1/12 scale) and am considering enlarging the plans and scratchbuilding. Plenty of labour there! Perhaps steaming ribs and whatnot. Any alternatives? Any plans/kits available anywhere?

Also intend to mount the canoe on Unionville Otter and Norseman.

This might be an item Sea Commander would consider to augment their stuff.

nony · 12-10-2005, 04:55 PM

Lorne's canoe was solid.. You don't want to hauling around a canoe full of water sloshing around in flight!!

jbr · 12-10-2005, 05:39 PM

Thanks, Wayne! Clever idea, even though not truly scale, as the stunning Cub and floats (from the picture on strictlyscale) seem to be. I now suspect the canoe was carved from foam, though the website claims wood. If so, strips glued and stained on the bottom, top a flat curve (so to speak)?

I figger a Cub--with a canoe tipped on its side over struts--should survive, despite the aerodynamic whirlwinds. At the Western Canadian Aviation Museum in Winnipeg there's a Otter on floats w/canoe and an info sign describing the experiments done to correctly position a canoe over the floats. Fascinating!

Has anyone else ever tried this?

Does anyone have Lorne's email address?

Ken Currell · 12-10-2005, 06:46 PM

Check e-bay there are some scale canoes there.

Cheers

nony · 12-10-2005, 08:19 PM

you would never know unleass you looked underneath..it was very well done. Lorne no longer owns that cub, and I don't believe he is on the internet

BigJohn · 12-11-2005, 01:41 PM

A friend of mine did a gws beaver with a canoe on its gear strut out of paper for it and it looked good as well as light.

jbr · 12-11-2005, 03:41 PM

Just received an email from Mr Hansen; I assume he was contacted by a Vernon club colleague. Apparently the canoe was custom made at a canoe manufacturer, measures 31 inches and about 5 inches wide. Which means the Midwest kit, Indian Girl, will have to be enlarged two and a half times. Ebay has a few canoes, 24 inches, UK crafted, at stupendous prices.

Any comments on aerodynamics.

By the way, the photo of Hansen`s Cub and canoe is on a link on the strictlyscale website, and another-- fubarhill.com.

jbr · 12-11-2005, 04:14 PM

Slight error. At the Western Canada Aviation Museum in YWG there is a Stinson Reliant, not Otter. I would post a pic if I knew how. At any rate, here`s the website.

http://www.wcam.mb.ca/AC/STINSON.html[/img]

shawn085 · 12-12-2005, 04:25 AM

You could put all most anything on a plane as an external load as long as some common sense is used. A canoe can go on facing either way on the floats but if you put a model of a lund or something remember to put the stern forward so the air is smooth going over the tail. You can experiment with different shapes and sizes just try and keep the air over the tail smooth and of course weight down. You should be able to fined a pic of a otter with a canoe on the float struts since a canoe rack for the full size plane is a factory option. If a real beaver can carry a real 180 fues on the float just think of what you could do with the model. Maybe that old trainer fues that you don't use any more. :P

jbr · 12-13-2005, 01:03 PM

Thanks, Shawn. Following on from your Lund example, the Stinson at the Western Canada Aviation Museum in YWG has the stern end of a y-back canoe facing the front of the float, thus providing streamlining at the rear.

For companies crafting scale canoes, here's two websites.

http://www.wcha.org/models/builders.html

www.woodenmodelships.com

This last one has a one canoe 27" long for 49 Yankee bucks.

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jbr RCC Apprentice I am: Jim B Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 73 Total Props: 0	canoe on float, like bushplane Remove this ad - become a site supporter! Cruising through websites and noticed Lorne Hanson 1/4 Cub (Vernon, BC) had a canoe mounted on the right float. I'm in the midst of Balsa USA Cub and Sig float kits. Have purchased the Midwest Indian Girl canoe kit (about 1/12 scale) and am considering enlarging the plans and scratchbuilding. Plenty of labour there! Perhaps steaming ribs and whatnot. Any alternatives? Any plans/kits available anywhere? Also intend to mount the canoe on Unionville Otter and Norseman. This might be an item Sea Commander would consider to augment their stuff.
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nony RCC Supreme Contributor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: the Park, Ab. Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 4,339 Total Props: 0	Lorne's canoe was solid.. You don't want to hauling around a canoe full of water sloshing around in flight!! __________________ Wayne The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up.
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nony RCC Supreme Contributor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: the Park, Ab. Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 4,339 Total Props: 0	you would never know unleass you looked underneath..it was very well done. Lorne no longer owns that cub, and I don't believe he is on the internet __________________ Wayne The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up.
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BigJohn RCC Supreme Contributor I am: john g Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: niagara region Radio of choice: Spektrum dx8 Feedback: 95 / 100% Posts: 2,288 Total Props: 4	Canoe A friend of mine did a gws beaver with a canoe on its gear strut out of paper for it and it looked good as well as light. __________________ If I could fit in my plane I would
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12-10-2005, 05:39 PM	#3
jbr RCC Apprentice I am: Jim B Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 73 Total Props: 0	Thanks, Wayne! Clever idea, even though not truly scale, as the stunning Cub and floats (from the picture on strictlyscale) seem to be. I now suspect the canoe was carved from foam, though the website claims wood. If so, strips glued and stained on the bottom, top a flat curve (so to speak)? I figger a Cub--with a canoe tipped on its side over struts--should survive, despite the aerodynamic whirlwinds. At the Western Canadian Aviation Museum in Winnipeg there's a Otter on floats w/canoe and an info sign describing the experiments done to correctly position a canoe over the floats. Fascinating! Has anyone else ever tried this? Does anyone have Lorne's email address?
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12-10-2005, 06:46 PM	#4
Ken Currell Guest I am: Ken Currell Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whitby, Ontario Radio of choice: Multiplex Royal Evo # of RCs: 30+ Feedback: 3 / 100% Posts: 3,684 Total Props: 0	Check e-bay there are some scale canoes there. Cheers
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jbr RCC Apprentice I am: Jim B Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 73 Total Props: 0	Just received an email from Mr Hansen; I assume he was contacted by a Vernon club colleague. Apparently the canoe was custom made at a canoe manufacturer, measures 31 inches and about 5 inches wide. Which means the Midwest kit, Indian Girl, will have to be enlarged two and a half times. Ebay has a few canoes, 24 inches, UK crafted, at stupendous prices. Any comments on aerodynamics. By the way, the photo of Hansen`s Cub and canoe is on a link on the strictlyscale website, and another-- fubarhill.com.
	.

12-11-2005, 04:14 PM	#8
jbr RCC Apprentice I am: Jim B Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 73 Total Props: 0	Slight error. At the Western Canada Aviation Museum in YWG there is a Stinson Reliant, not Otter. I would post a pic if I knew how. At any rate, here`s the website. http://www.wcam.mb.ca/AC/STINSON.html[/img]
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12-12-2005, 04:25 AM	#9
shawn085 Guest Join Date: Jun 2005 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 23 Total Props: 0	You could put all most anything on a plane as an external load as long as some common sense is used. A canoe can go on facing either way on the floats but if you put a model of a lund or something remember to put the stern forward so the air is smooth going over the tail. You can experiment with different shapes and sizes just try and keep the air over the tail smooth and of course weight down. You should be able to fined a pic of a otter with a canoe on the float struts since a canoe rack for the full size plane is a factory option. If a real beaver can carry a real 180 fues on the float just think of what you could do with the model. Maybe that old trainer fues that you don't use any more. :P
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12-13-2005, 01:03 PM	#10
jbr RCC Apprentice I am: Jim B Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Feedback: 1 / 100% Posts: 73 Total Props: 0	Thanks, Shawn. Following on from your Lund example, the Stinson at the Western Canada Aviation Museum in YWG has the stern end of a y-back canoe facing the front of the float, thus providing streamlining at the rear. For companies crafting scale canoes, here's two websites. http://www.wcha.org/models/builders.html www.woodenmodelships.com This last one has a one canoe 27" long for 49 Yankee bucks.
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