[Canstarman]

Originally Posted by stegl

Hey Chris ; even though you have been so patient over all these forums on dromes with most posters ; don't be so rough on them. Maybe it's the learning curve we went through over the many years past; that they have to deal with ; get organized with MAAC and make drome operation; a respectable branch of MAAC. If they can get organized within MAAC and prove that drones can be a safe sport.... work at bringing the bad operators into the fold. Nothing wrong with forming a drome only flying site as well and then maybe their issues can be worked on and better understood what they , themselves have to deal with.

Actually, under MAAC ,we are classified as FPVs. The drone supply business that the FPV chairman, Zoltan Pittner ( called New Generation Hobbies) is going to be affected greatly by all you anti drone MAAC members. No sweat off my back because I'm at the point of transitioning over to commercial drone flying. (I can finally start making money with something that I love doing)
However, I still want to do whatever it takes to support the drone flying hobby in this country.

[Mustang1993]

Hello everyone that is upset about the new regulations. I've been reading about this for several days now and find there are a lot of things not being totally understood about what just happened earlier this month.

Here are my comments so far in hoping to clarify them a little.

1) First thing is that Interim Rules are laws and must be followed or you risk being fined ! According to regulations, Marc Garneau has the power to introduce interim laws as he sees fit.

2) The height restriction is pretty straight forward and has only been reduced to 90 m

3) They have yet to clearly define buildings, vehicles, vessels, animals, people / crowds, etc. I imagine this will be clarified eventually to close the loop holes.

4) The 9 km distance rule is excessive but all items mentioned are clearly defined in CAR regulations.

5) The forest fire is interesting as how are we to even see a forest fire 9 km away from where we are standing. Not sure about the rest of you but I'm not sticking around if I see a Forest Fire heading my way.

6) Same idea with police and first responders. Simple just land when they show up.

7) At night or in clouds. Night is pretty straight forward but what does in clouds mean. Not even sure if clouds can form 90 m from the ground. Would Fog be included also.

Line of sight pretty straight forward, no change from previous rules or laws.

9) 500 m distance from drone is unusual as most basic transmitters don't reach that far. Yes I know some do but wouldn't LOS be enough. I have difficulty seeing my drone at 500 m not sure about everyone else.

10) Privacy issue ! I totally disagree with putting my name address and phone number on any aircraft I have. If they want to treat model aircraft like manned aircraft give us a Call Sign or registration number.

Some of the other things I've noticed have dealt with what these interim rules. Most likely they WILL apply to all unmanned types of aircraft ! Drone plane helicopter flying lawn mower and anything else that falls under the definition of a UAV.

Has anyone checked local bylaws ? Even if you find an area large enough some communities have banned them from flying completely.

Lastly I'm going to be talking with my MP and also with a local lawyer that is specializing in legislation about Drones.

I'm collecting information as well as comments to counter these over restrictive laws and plan on doing as much as I can so that I can fly in my own yard. You can't fly in your own yard under these interim laws is what finally pushed me too far !

I visited a local flying club last year and it was MAAC certified. If they expect all drone flyers around here to only fly at that club, I'd be lucky to fly for 10 minutes on the weekend as the MAAC clubs will be swamped with all the new memberships !

One thing everyone has to stop doing is swearing and acting unprofessionally as that will get us nowhere !

I've already signed on to a petition against this legislation but what about organizing a protest either at Transport Canada or Parliament in Ottawa ? Has anyone heard of such a thing yet ?

[Mustang1993]

Here's a link to the Transport Canada website that shows the actual interim order if you don't already know it or read them.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/mediaroom/in...-aircraft.html

[stegl]

This link has been up dozens of times on on 5 or 6 forums on RCCanada. Not really new but well worn... lol

[stegl]

Originally Posted by Canstarman

Actually, under MAAC ,we are classified as FPVs. The drone supply business that the FPV chairman, Zoltan Pittner ( called New Generation Hobbies) is going to be affected greatly by all you anti drone MAAC members. No sweat off my back because I'm at the point of transitioning over to commercial drone flying. (I can finally start making money with something that I love doing)
However, I still want to do whatever it takes to support the drone flying hobby in this country.

Not a problem if you can meet al the demands for going commercial..... insurance , SFOC 's, not sure how the FPV works with commercial operation or if really allowed but then you need your HAM liscence plus a spotter , I believe.
Won't be easy and many more hoops to jump thru.
Good Luck on your venture

[Canstarman]

Originally Posted by Mustang1993

Hello everyone that is upset about the new regulations. I've been reading about this for several days now and find there are a lot of things not being totally understood about what just happened earlier this month.

Here are my comments so far in hoping to clarify them a little.

1) First thing is that Interim Rules are laws and must be followed or you risk being fined ! According to regulations, Marc Garneau has the power to introduce interim laws as he sees fit.

2) The height restriction is pretty straight forward and has only been reduced to 90 m

3) They have yet to clearly define buildings, vehicles, vessels, animals, people / crowds, etc. I imagine this will be clarified eventually to close the loop holes.

4) The 9 km distance rule is excessive but all items mentioned are clearly defined in CAR regulations.

5) The forest fire is interesting as how are we to even see a forest fire 9 km away from where we are standing. Not sure about the rest of you but I'm not sticking around if I see a Forest Fire heading my way.

6) Same idea with police and first responders. Simple just land when they show up.

7) At night or in clouds. Night is pretty straight forward but what does in clouds mean. Not even sure if clouds can form 90 m from the ground. Would Fog be included also.

Line of sight pretty straight forward, no change from previous rules or laws.

9) 500 m distance from drone is unusual as most basic transmitters don't reach that far. Yes I know some do but wouldn't LOS be enough. I have difficulty seeing my drone at 500 m not sure about everyone else.

10) Privacy issue ! I totally disagree with putting my name address and phone number on any aircraft I have. If they want to treat model aircraft like manned aircraft give us a Call Sign or registration number.

Some of the other things I've noticed have dealt with what these interim rules. Most likely they WILL apply to all unmanned types of aircraft ! Drone plane helicopter flying lawn mower and anything else that falls under the definition of a UAV.

Has anyone checked local bylaws ? Even if you find an area large enough some communities have banned them from flying completely.

Lastly I'm going to be talking with my MP and also with a local lawyer that is specializing in legislation about Drones.

I'm collecting information as well as comments to counter these over restrictive laws and plan on doing as much as I can so that I can fly in my own yard. You can't fly in your own yard under these interim laws is what finally pushed me too far !

I visited a local flying club last year and it was MAAC certified. If they expect all drone flyers around here to only fly at that club, I'd be lucky to fly for 10 minutes on the weekend as the MAAC clubs will be swamped with all the new memberships !

One thing everyone has to stop doing is swearing and acting unprofessionally as that will get us nowhere !

I've already signed on to a petition against this legislation but what about organizing a protest either at Transport Canada or Parliament in Ottawa ? Has anyone heard of such a thing yet ?

I've been waiting for the term "LOS" to given an actual value for a long time. That's because LOS really depends on the size of your aircraft. I find that 500 meters is a fairly good average. I think it's a great idea to talk to your local bylaw officers , If you get on their good side , you'll be good to go just so long as you use common sense and stay plenty clear of people and animals in the area. Drones , model planes , Fpvs , park flyers are 1 and the same.
It's as simple as that.

[Canstarman]

Originally Posted by stegl

Not a problem if you can meet al the demands for going commercial..... insurance , SFOC 's, not sure how the FPV works with commercial operation or if really allowed but then you need your HAM liscence plus a spotter , I believe.
Won't be easy and many more hoops to jump thru.
Good Luck on your venture

I already have my HAM licence and my own insurance , etc . Just have to deal with the SFOC,

[Mustang1993]

I live in a fairly populated area with pretty much only the Sun Parlor Flying Club Field. With all the suggestions rules laws or whatever you want to call them, I would have to join MAAC first and could only fly at Sun Parlor in this area !

[Canstarman]

Originally Posted by Mustang1993

I live in a fairly populated area with pretty much only the Sun Parlor Flying Club Field. With all the suggestions rules laws or whatever you want to call them, I would have to join MAAC first and could only fly at Sun Parlor in this area !

Hopefully , your MAAC field is drone friendly , if not, then how about near the mouth of the Canard river.

[Morison]

Originally Posted by Canstarman

I already have my HAM licence and my own insurance , etc . Just have to deal with the SFOC,

Just thought of this... but the ham license (and frequencies) wouldn't be legal for commercial use would they?