[hillmanr2]

I ran into Mike A. from Vernon at the Princeton jet rally yesterday and we decided to put together something for next year. It will hopefully be a joint venture between the Kelowna and Vernon club held in Kelowna. Depending on interest we will probably have basic, sportsman, and advanced classes. Dates and time are yet to be determined.

IF your interested please reply. The basic sequence could be flown with a powerful trainer so any aircraft will do.

[ronm]

I should be there, sportsman class.

I hope you are successful, I have had terrible luck getting to contests this year.
I have only attended one all year, although there has been at least 5 within driving distance!

[hillmanr2]

nice! allot of guy's in my club are in probably 6 in basic and at least 1 in intermediate/ advanced. I think about 3 - 5 from Vernon. Me and another guy are going to present this at our next meeting on OCT 5.

[JimMoss]

Let me know when it is ....... I have to go out there next year for a wedding ..... maybe I'll bring a plane....... !

[Canhos]

Alright, here's a real stupid question. How is IMAC different from Pattern competitions. Is it basically you make up the sequence with IMAC?

Also. I always understood IMAC to be based on Scale models. When you say a powerful trainer, do you mean I could bring out my Eagle and use it in a competition like this? Is not static display also part of scoring, or is that just in the higher levels?

Sorry for the ignorance, but my exposure to the different "types" of flying are very limited, namely Sport (just wiggling the sticks), a little pattern, and I'm also involved in Advanced Rekitting.

Thank you in advance for the info.

Mike

[JimMoss]

Originally Posted by Canhos

Alright, here's a real stupid question. How is IMAC different from Pattern competitions. Is it basically you make up the sequence with IMAC?

There is no such thing as a Stupid Question ..... Only Stupid Answers .... so I hope this isn't one of them ...

IMAC puts out Known routines for each class each year, and for Sportsman and up they put out Unknowns each weekend .....

Also. I always understood IMAC to be based on Scale models. When you say a powerful trainer, do you mean I could bring out my Eagle and use it in a competition like this? Is not static display also part of scoring, or is that just in the higher levels?

In all classes except Basic you have to use a "Scale" Aerobatic aircraft that has been used at some point since full scale aerobatics has been around, ....... In Basic fly what you bring ..... so yes you could fly your Eagle, Somethin Extra, or even a pattern plane if you so desired ......

Sorry for the ignorance, but my exposure to the different "types" of flying are very limited, namely Sport (just wiggling the sticks), a little pattern, and I'm also involved in Advanced Rekitting.

If you don't ask .... you will never know!

Thank you in advance for the info.

Mike

You are Welcome!

[Canhos]

Thanks alot Jim.

If I understand this correctly, the basic difference is the planes, Pattern comps, the planes will all be the same at the higher levels (within reason) . IMAC, you get your choice of a Yak or Sukhoi or w.h.y. And the size limitation is larger?

I'll need to get our club guru to show me what this is all about. Maybe I'll take the pipe off my 40 sized Giles 202 ARF and bring it up this spring. Providing i don't rekit it before then.

Mike

[scaleguy]

Mike,

Checkout http://www.mini-iac.com for more info.

There are no size limitations in any of the classes other then MAAC's weight restriction.

As Jim Moss said only the classes above Basic have to use a recognizable scale model of an aerobatic aircraft to compete. Don't build an Extra and duplicate every rivet and panel line though... you don't wan't that kind of weight on an IMAC plane.

I flew a GP PT 40 in my very first contest in Basic and managed to nail an 8 out of 10 on a Humpty bump.... but it wouldn't spin worth sh*t.


An aerobatic model in the .60 to 1.20 size is good to start but Chris from the Chatham Aeronauts managed to post a 3rd place in Basic this past weekend with a Twist so it can be done with a .45 size ARF!

The main thing here is to have fun. Yes the Higher clases will spend $1000.00s of dollars on aircaraft but you don't HAVE to.

Download the current Basic sequence and try flying it this weekend or at least try each manouver individually at first. I fy you can't read the aresti just email me and I will send you the written out description.

Get a couple of guys together and each fly and the others watch to see what mistakes you are making. Believe me 12 eyes are better then 2!

[hillmanr2]

I was flying the basic Imac sequence this weekend and to me it was quite enjoyable. This weekend im going to fly the sportsman a whole lot of times for practice. Anouther diffrence between pattern is in Imac you rarely fly out of the box the whole sequence is strung together.

The sequence is on the maac website under documents/forms.

[Guest]

Originally Posted by hillmanr2

I was flying the basic Imac sequence this weekend and to me it was quite enjoyable. This weekend im going to fly the sportsman a whole lot of times for practice. Anouther diffrence between pattern is in Imac you rarely fly out of the box the whole sequence is strung together.


The sequence is on the maac website under documents/forms.

Only in Sportsman pattern do you fly out of the box, the rest is full turnaround within the box, and our box on pattern is MUCH smaller and we are far more strict on manuver/aircraft placement within it.

There are a number of other differences,

Pattern:

-Limited to 2 meter x 2 meter length and wingspan, although this is never checked, especially in the lower classes.
-Max weight 5kg, again rarely if every checked in any class.
-Any aircraft design, scale, not scale we dont care
-5 classes to fly in
-Planes for pattern are purposely built for precision, they are not multi-purpose 3D planes as in IMAC....therefore they fly more precise. Probably some of the easiest planes to fly. Still very aerobatic, and capable of everything but the wildest 3D stuff....rolling circles, loops etc no problem.
-Lots of contests and competitors in BC and Alberta to attend (6-7 contests)
-Very quiet, very small noise footprint while flying....you will never be restricted by any noise limit with a pattern plane
-A typical 1 season old (300 flights) pattern model, decked to the 9's will cost around $3500 RTF This would be a model capable of competing in the highest levels (World Championships) of pattern. Its easy to get into pattern for much less than that with a very good ARF and two stroke motor (OS 160).
-Planes are relatively small and easy to transport....I can fit mine in a Toyota Echo hatchback!

So, it depends on what you want....the actual sequences are largely similar...its the planes that are the main difference.

I counted about 75 active pattern competitors in BC and Alberta, 6-7 contests throughout the summer. Lots of used equipment up for sale on a fairly regular basis. Lots of very talented fliers to give you a hand.....in fact Mike Allman was just at a pattern contest with me 2 weeks ago in Aldergrove.

I think Mike is building some new pattern planes this winter, he would probably sell you his USA Star that he is flying now