[Dale Hunter]

Great example Hanes. I think a Kit for the 150cc class cost as much as the H9 Sukhoi, under $1500.
Yet another way to look at things. Not everyone has to go through the learning curve, of building kits (plans, etc.) to get flying. Old school, is good for old people. The truth. But lessons learned are valuable. Education is experience and knowledge past on.

ARF's are getting a lot of people in our fold. They are here (old saying now).

-Dale-



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[Old School Flyer]

Originally Posted by bradleyban

lots of the high end engine companies are all derived in Europe. Most of there sales are in Europe the may sell 100 engine in Canada a year. Possibly why the support not so great here

Not a very good excuse. That just adds to the "fly by night" feel of them, making them LOW end companies.
My money is valuable to me, no matter what, and they should see it that way for all their prospective clients.
We have options, and we are exercising them.
ZDZ have been here for at least 20 years? Yet a company like DLE seems to be more of a reliable source?

[wingburner]

Originally Posted by Bdegan

If you use cost as your comparison.

Hands down, the new ARF's have it. For what an ARF gives you. You can't build a kit .

You build a kit now for pretty much only 2 reasons.

1) the simple love of building
2) to make something that little bit unique that no one else has

Used to have the love for building as well Brad, but like Dale I will start a project and never finish it nowadays.

You guys keep up the great work though...it is truly a new era.

Andy does a great job of lightening the ARF's as well....

[wingburner]

Originally Posted by bradleyban

LOL! Stir it Jack STIR IT UP!!!

ME??????

[TBrum]

Brad... I need to plug into the DA70 thread!! No surprise to me that they are having some teething problems. DA has been like the other companies of late... 85/170 issues, then the hush-hush 200 fiasco, then 60/120 issues. (I do love DA, just not those motors)

I also remember all the reed block and ignition issues 3W had and finally came out with improvements. I think they're all the same - they all have teething issues. (again, I looooooove 3w motors!)

I'd be some frustrated if I were one of the guys having the GP123 issues. But mine is beautiful and king of the class, so all I can do is praise them! Can't wait for V2

ZDZ.. Parts replacement sucks, but so worth the risk... 80, 90, 112, 160 and the top dog 180 are buttermilk smooth and so strong! The 112 and 180 being some of my alltime favorite motors

[wingburner]

Originally Posted by TBrum

Brad... I need to plug into the DA70 thread!! No surprise to me that they are having some teething problems. DA has been like the other companies of late... 85/170 issues, then the hush-hush 200 fiasco, then 60/120 issues. (I do love DA, just not those motors)

I also remember all the reed block and ignition issues 3W had and finally came out with improvements. I think they're all the same - they all have teething issues. (again, I looooooove 3w motors!)

I'd be some frustrated if I were one of the guys having the GP123 issues. But mine is beautiful and king of the class, so all I can do is praise them! Can't wait for V2

ZDZ.. Parts replacement sucks, but so worth the risk... 80, 90, 112, 160 and the top dog 180 are buttermilk smooth and so strong! The 112 and 180 being some of my alltime favorite motors

So true Trevor, but these companies do make improvements,,,It's the others that don't and simply just keep running the same course for as long as possible with the same issues...that's where all Ct engines fall and fail...to me!

[Old School Flyer]

Well fellas, for those that celebrate it.
Have a great Christmas, Seasons greetings, happy holidays, enjoy getting paid overtime Etc
Whatever you are doing, enjoy it.
TaTa for now!

[wingburner]

Wow boys, we're kicking it in the arse today!

Sibola will have a new batch of piglets by the time he gets caught up again!!

[bhughes]

Been up since 6 am with a sick little boy you guys are giving me some good reading material.
Arf's rule
Ch##t rocks
I had to jack lol

[wingburner]

Originally Posted by bhughes

Been up since 6 am with a sick little boy you guys are giving me some good reading material.
Arf's rule
Ch##t rocks
I had to jack lol

LOL,,no problem..you will get wiser with age!!