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**Concordefan** · 12-26-2005, 12:29 PM

Well some of you guys have seen my rebuild thread on this Bipe, i have come to almost final conclusion on power plant, i am going with G45 on this. I like to know what would experianced guys think and what do i have to do in order to balance it.

Sammy

Kevin McGrath · 12-26-2005, 04:32 PM

I think you may find this engine too heavy and maybe too powerful for this model.
This is a relativley small bipe and probably would be better off with a larger glow engine,or one of the more modern light weight gassers of 35 or 40cc.
I have flown my GP Christen Eagle,which has a wingspan 10" longer, with both a 35cc ROTO and 40cc ZDZ and both had as much power as I want and both are a lot lighter than the Zenoah which is a conversion engine with a flywheel and magneto set up.
For best slow speed performance apparentley its best to keep this model down in the 13# range else it glides like a brick.
Just my opinion.

12-26-2005, 05:14 PM

Sammy, you and I have had many discussions about this plane / engine combo. I learned a long time ago not to ask the general population their opinion because you will get many, many different opinions and they are ALL right in their own way. Unfortunately only 25% of them will be what you WANT to hear.

Make your OWN choice and go with it, if your wrong you'll never forget the lesson, if your right you'll have the added satisfaction that it was YOUR choice.

Let me know if you need anymore pics.

**Concordefan** · 12-26-2005, 05:27 PM

Hi Guys,

I will let you know about the pics, BTW can you get me exact CG location in this plane, i know its most likely be somewhere on the top wings main spar, but i am just guessing....

Don you are right, i am just going to with my own choice from now on and hopefully it will work but if not then i can always change to something else in same frame of choices.

Thanks
Sammy

12-26-2005, 06:56 PM

Sammy if you look at the pics I sent you you'll find one from the direction booklet that tells you all the control throws and the CG.

**Concordefan** · 12-26-2005, 07:35 PM

Yes i saw the picture of the instruction booklet but i dont have it so i cant have any info from it...

12-26-2005, 08:52 PM

No, no, Sammy One of the pics. I think it is the 3rd last pic. is from a PAGE in the boolet telling you the control throws and the CG is 6 1/4" back from the leading edge of the top wing. I sent you 30 pictures in all.

**Concordefan** · 12-26-2005, 09:26 PM

My Appologies Don, i dident checked all the way down, yes all the pics you sended are recieved and now i am going through them...

Sorry once again...

D Pedersen · 01-07-2006, 01:39 PM

My only suggestion on this Sammy would be to shorten the engine box some and move the motor back .This will help with the noise heavy condition and also stop having to add tail weight which will just add to the wing loading.I had one with a Moki 1.8 in it which actually was noise heavy ontill moving more radio equipment backwards .I have a new in box Stinker again as I sold the old one ,this is getting a DA50 so it will get a shortening of the noise also.Just try and keep it light and remember we do not have to haul 24 oz of glow fuel in the nose of the plane .Mount the tank on the cg .Good luck and have fun.
Dennis

12-26-2005, 12:29 PM	#1
Concordefan Level 3 Supporter ★ Site Supporter ★ I am: Robert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Radio of choice: Spektrum # of RCs: 2 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 3,073 Total Props: 0	G-45 for Midwest Super Stinker Remove this ad - become a site supporter! Well some of you guys have seen my rebuild thread on this Bipe, i have come to almost final conclusion on power plant, i am going with G45 on this. I like to know what would experianced guys think and what do i have to do in order to balance it. Sammy __________________ Do sign the petiton. www.canadiansuperconnie.org We could Save our Connie CF-TGE, We still have chance, Once gone we will lose our History and Heritage forever....
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Kevin McGrath RCC Pro Contributor I am: kevin w Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste marie,Ont. Canada Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 1,958 Total Props: 1	I think you may find this engine too heavy and maybe too powerful for this model. This is a relativley small bipe and probably would be better off with a larger glow engine,or one of the more modern light weight gassers of 35 or 40cc. I have flown my GP Christen Eagle,which has a wingspan 10" longer, with both a 35cc ROTO and 40cc ZDZ and both had as much power as I want and both are a lot lighter than the Zenoah which is a conversion engine with a flywheel and magneto set up. For best slow speed performance apparentley its best to keep this model down in the 13# range else it glides like a brick. Just my opinion. __________________ MAAC 6401LCD IMAA 27023 IMAC 3710 The Planet is doing what it has always done.......floods,volcanic eruptions storms, earthquakes.........but today there are more people in the way.
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12-26-2005, 05:27 PM	#4
Concordefan Level 3 Supporter ★ Site Supporter ★ I am: Robert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Radio of choice: Spektrum # of RCs: 2 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 3,073 Total Props: 0	Hi Guys, I will let you know about the pics, BTW can you get me exact CG location in this plane, i know its most likely be somewhere on the top wings main spar, but i am just guessing.... Don you are right, i am just going to with my own choice from now on and hopefully it will work but if not then i can always change to something else in same frame of choices. Thanks Sammy __________________ Do sign the petiton. www.canadiansuperconnie.org We could Save our Connie CF-TGE, We still have chance, Once gone we will lose our History and Heritage forever....
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12-26-2005, 07:35 PM	#6
Concordefan Level 3 Supporter ★ Site Supporter ★ I am: Robert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Radio of choice: Spektrum # of RCs: 2 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 3,073 Total Props: 0	Yes i saw the picture of the instruction booklet but i dont have it so i cant have any info from it... __________________ Do sign the petiton. www.canadiansuperconnie.org We could Save our Connie CF-TGE, We still have chance, Once gone we will lose our History and Heritage forever....
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12-26-2005, 09:26 PM	#8
Concordefan Level 3 Supporter ★ Site Supporter ★ I am: Robert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Radio of choice: Spektrum # of RCs: 2 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 3,073 Total Props: 0	My Appologies Don, i dident checked all the way down, yes all the pics you sended are recieved and now i am going through them... Sorry once again... __________________ Do sign the petiton. www.canadiansuperconnie.org We could Save our Connie CF-TGE, We still have chance, Once gone we will lose our History and Heritage forever....
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12-26-2005, 05:14 PM	#3
Don M. Guest Feedback: / % Posts: n/a Total Props: 0	Sammy, you and I have had many discussions about this plane / engine combo. I learned a long time ago not to ask the general population their opinion because you will get many, many different opinions and they are ALL right in their own way. Unfortunately only 25% of them will be what you WANT to hear. Make your OWN choice and go with it, if your wrong you'll never forget the lesson, if your right you'll have the added satisfaction that it was YOUR choice. Let me know if you need anymore pics.
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12-26-2005, 06:56 PM	#5
Don M. Guest Feedback: / % Posts: n/a Total Props: 0	Sammy if you look at the pics I sent you you'll find one from the direction booklet that tells you all the control throws and the CG.
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12-26-2005, 08:52 PM	#7
Don M. Guest Feedback: / % Posts: n/a Total Props: 0	No, no, Sammy One of the pics. I think it is the 3rd last pic. is from a PAGE in the boolet telling you the control throws and the CG is 6 1/4" back from the leading edge of the top wing. I sent you 30 pictures in all.
	.

01-07-2006, 01:39 PM	#9
D Pedersen Guest Join Date: Mar 2004 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 50 Total Props: 0	Stinker My only suggestion on this Sammy would be to shorten the engine box some and move the motor back .This will help with the noise heavy condition and also stop having to add tail weight which will just add to the wing loading.I had one with a Moki 1.8 in it which actually was noise heavy ontill moving more radio equipment backwards .I have a new in box Stinker again as I sold the old one ,this is getting a DA50 so it will get a shortening of the noise also.Just try and keep it light and remember we do not have to haul 24 oz of glow fuel in the nose of the plane .Mount the tank on the cg .Good luck and have fun. Dennis
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