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12-01-2009, 08:48 PM | #1 |
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A First S.P.A.D.
Thought I'd try it, so I went down to the hardware store and spent about $30.00 on materials. 2-3/8" gutter downpipe, 4mm Coro, yard sticks and some clamps. Felt like building something anyway.
I wanted to make it flyable in a day, so I picked the Friday Night Special (FNS) plans off the SPAD link so commonly refered to here. I tried, but, failed to make it in a day. There was a problem with the wing. I think the yardstick wing-spars were to wide, taking into account the distance of spar to LE; the Coro buckled instead of curved over the spars. Now, I have to make a new wing. This was my first attempt in the SPAD world. A fine idea if you want to build quick and fly soon. I have to get it right, though, and now it has to wait for the next set of days off. I'll post some pics when its flying. If it flys.
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12-01-2009, 09:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
Hey Guy,
The FNS plans call for 2mm coro in the wing, which may be why you're seeing some buckling. If you can get your hands on some 2mm, I'd say that is definitely your best bet. I'm sure you've got it right, but also make sure you're running the "flutes" of the coro in the chord-wise direction, rather than span-wise for the wing. It will buckle for sure if you've got it span-wise. Hope you work it out, SPADs are a blast! Ben
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12-01-2009, 09:52 PM | #3 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
Thanks Ben
After reading your post (I've always enjoyed your input), I see the plans do call for 2mm Coro. Just like an old guy to look at the picture and not read the directions. Oh Well!! Guess I'll have to invent my own way to deal with the issue, because I bought two sheets of 4mm and no 2mm. I bought enough material to build five of these things. I'll have to think about it at work. I'm thinking this is my first SPAD, but, it might also be the first SPAD built 1/2 & 1/2. I may have to use a little balsa in the wing, and cover it with Coro. I'm thinking balsa doublers on the spars, rounded off at the top; with the spars 1" wide instead of 1-1/2".
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12-01-2009, 10:05 PM | #4 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
Seeing as how your coro is too thick, maybe warming it slightly along the length of the spar with a heat gun will allow the coro to curve rather than buckle.
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12-01-2009, 10:17 PM | #6 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
You can also use two spars about an inch apart (put little spacers between them to make it solid, kind of like a ladder. Not many though--2-3 should do it) to allow the coro to "bridge" over the gap.
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12-01-2009, 10:26 PM | #7 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
I realize this is your first SPAD and therefore do not want to much hassle, but if you can find yourself some 2mm coro you will be much better off. I have yet to see a 4mm wing fly well. Not that it can't be done. I've just never seen it done. At any rate post some pics so we can see what's going on.
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12-01-2009, 10:57 PM | #8 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
Thankyou everyone for taking an interest in this post. The photo was taken on short order, but, I believe it shows the problem. As you can see, the buckling takes place at the spar relief. I believe the spar is too thick, and a thinner spar will make the difference. Also, as another has been kind enough to suggest, I might add another spar to relieve the close quarter pressure. I might round off the the leading spar in order to relieve the sharp edge. Buying 2mm Coro is pretty well out, as the local hardware dosen't handle that. If using the 4mm Coro suggest a weight problem, I'm not knowlegeable. But this is my first SPAD. Hoping it will fly with a .25..
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12-02-2009, 03:27 AM | #9 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
I wouldn't worry about the extra 4mm you are hooked now! I would locate some 2mm I have a dogfighter I built and it has 4mm on the bottom and 2mm on the top. Looking at your picture I have seen them fly like that.
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12-02-2009, 06:49 AM | #10 |
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Re: A First S.P.A.D.
Hi Guy,
The 4mm coro is heavier, and the 2mm might flex more to get over your spar on that short chord. That being said, I have .40-sized birds that call for 2mm; and I've used 4mm with good results (but hot landings!). I'll also echo the comments that I've seen planes fly with the coro buckled over the spar like you have. Where to start?? New baby, new job, buying a new house, new hobbies, etc. etc. etc.!
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