[stardustertoo]

Check your facts...

There is altitudes limitations:

"Minimum Altitudes and Distances

602.14 (1) [Repealed, SOR/2002-447, s. 2]

(2) Except where conducting a take-off, approach or landing or where permitted under section 602.15, no person shall operate an aircraft

(a) over a built-up area or over an open-air assembly of persons unless the aircraft is operated at an altitude from which, in the event of an emergency necessitating an immediate landing, it would be possible to land the aircraft without creating a hazard to persons or property on the surface, and, in any case, at an altitude that is not lower than

(i) for aeroplanes, 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle located within a horizontal distance of 2,000 feet from the aeroplane,

(ii) for balloons, 500 feet above the highest obstacle located within a horizontal distance of 500 feet from the balloon, or

(iii) for an aircraft other than an aeroplane or a balloon, 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle located within a horizontal distance of 500 feet from the aircraft; and

(b) in circumstances other than those referred to in paragraph (a), at a distance less than 500 feet from any person, vessel, vehicle or structure. "

Old Prairie is correct. Read paragraph (b) in the section of the CARS you quoted, and you will see the answer. Its pretty simple, part (a) and its subpoints (i), (ii), and (iii) pertain simply to flight over a built up area. the part (b) quite simply says "anywhere else, just maintain 500 foot seperation"....not vertical....just 500 feet.

The low altitude permission part starts with the statement:

A person may operate an aircraft at altitudes and distances less than those specified in subsection 602.14(2)

In simple terms, over a built up area you can do what you need if you are engaged in those types of work. Not a built up area, you can be closer than the 500ft separation while engaged in those types of work also.

So, the simple fact is, out in the country where most of us fly we are not in a 'built up area', so yes there is a possibility of full size aircraft flying by at less than 500ft.

[hysot]

Yes I read everything again and deleted my message. Shouldn't reply on a forum when sick I guess. I'm out, going back to rest

Sent from my spacecraft orbiting Saturn

[Hatch]

During my PPL training in the early 2000s my instructor regularly took us below 500' over farm fields when practicing forced landings. Somebody called the police one time because we went so low they thought we had crashed.

The rules should be set for the most common situation. In exceptional circumstances the basic rule (which we had before) should be that we don't create a hazard to aviation.

[stardustertoo]

Originally Posted by hysot

Yes I read everything again and deleted my message. Shouldn't reply on a forum when sick I guess. I'm out, going back to rest

Sent from my spacecraft orbiting Saturn

Posting late at night is usually what causes me problems lol. Get some rest and have chicken noodle soup!

[4*60]

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[4*60]

Originally Posted by OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK

Check your facts guys!

My understanding is that the ONLY restriction for full sized aviation is over a populated area and that one is much higher. There is no 500ft height restriction otherwise! They are legal right down to ground level. I believe the 500ft limit is a HORIZONTAL distance restriction. Meaning that they can fly right down to ground level as long as the plane is 500 feet away from your farm buildings.

Yes and perhaps quite safe in your neck of the woods. In our area it would not interfere with most aircraft because they would not last long flying under 500 ft AGL.
The last Cub flight I had in Sask. where the pilot was skimming the fence posts was my LAST flight in a Cub.

[OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK]

Crop sprayers and seismic helis are pretty commonly right down at ground level here.

[4*60]

The sky is NOT falling.

[OLD PRAIRIE RED NECK]

Nope but we are getting a bit claustrophobic these days what with the ceiling being lowered and all!

[bbbair]

Hey Guys;

We are all very adept at chatting with each other here and getting no where...

For all of you who really want to voice your opinion where it counts, here is the contact information for the 'Right Honorable Marc Garneau';

Represents the riding of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce–Westmount

Contact information;

mintc@tc.gc.ca
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6
Telephone: 613-996-7267
Fax: 613-995-8632