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Old 03-06-2010, 10:07 AM   #31
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Re: Model Airplanes Banned in Cambridge Parks

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Hi Leopard 1

We're trying to stay under the radar. This has nothing to do with either club. I posted this as a resident of Cambridge, nothing else. Let me be clear, I do not speak for either club.

As a citizen I have already spoken to my alderman. I am concerned about the picnic in the park issue too.
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:39 AM   #32
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Re: Model Airplanes Banned in Cambridge Parks

Propworn, I think you have summed it up correctly. I too remember flying C/L in my hometown local parks as a kid. Wish I still had my first bird
Niagara Falls had a C/L setup in one park but was too far to ride my bicycle to while carrying my plane...LOL

I wish you luck in your endeavour from the citizen standpoint. I was merely providing a possible solution. I think it is a sad thing though, that MAAC and local clubs want nothing to do with the parkflyer problem. A citizen approaching a town council with the support of a local club or two as well as a National organization would indeed have a better chance of having such by-laws ammended. Same for the picnic issue. ie: support from local groups and churches.

Just another reason why I love living in a small community. I got tired of city politics and all the hustle and bustle

Best of luck sir and I hope it works out for the best.
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:49 AM   #33
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Re: Model Airplanes Banned in Cambridge Parks

Jkovats you sure opened a can of worms here did you..
the picnic thing is over the top for sure, as far as the flying i used to go to my local athlectic park
and fly my parlzone cub there it couildnt do any more damadge than a soft ball or hard ball.
never had a issue really only curiosity.
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:32 AM   #34
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well i can see why they did it for airplanes.. but the rest you stated..whens your next electoin lol

I think u should appeal this..i bet u win..funny thing..what there going to throw out wedding parties in your park getting pics to

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It's official folks. Tuesday night City Council passed a bylaw, " Fine for flying powered model airplane in city park $110".

It was only a matter of time. I guess my GWS Tiger Moth is a threat. No exceptions, no excuses. It was approved for an on the spot ticket.

That's nothing, we have such a user friendly city council they also passed the " Fine for Picnic of 15 or more people in city park $110". There goes the family reunion and the church "breakfast picnic". That's right.

I guess the family and the church are a threat to the safety of the rest of the world. I thought the rest of the world was at the mall using their credit cards and getting into debt, I never see them at the park when I am there. I guess we'll have to move to the Conservation area.

Go Figure.

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Old 03-07-2010, 07:43 AM   #35
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Quick bit of information: Both Aurora and Newmarket (Ontraio) have by-laws on the books that ban a whole range of activities inlcuding flying of model airplanes. HOWEVER, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS, if you apply for a permit that allows you to perform that activity in a specific location and can provide proof of suitable insurance, you will be issued a permit.

Most municipalities are not driven so much by revenue-generation but now by risk-aversion -- what are the odds of the town or city getting sued big-time for an activity being done in one of their parks?

Also, the picnic parties of over 15 needing a permit is a good idea, because the parks people will have to clean up after these people, plus the possibility of illegal alcohol consumption (albeit a church group might be having a sunrise communion service), plus possible crowd situations -- too many peolple, not enough tables, etc. The permit allows them to plan and put some additional restrictions on what can or cannot be done (music, cleanup, etc.)

Find your local by-laws department and ask for the by-laws controlling the use of parks, read it carefully. Don't try to be a lawyer and wheedle your argument to suit your case. If you don't understand the implication of a partciular item, ask the people there for an explanation -- they'll be the people at the scene doing the interpretation anyways when the tickets are being handed out.

Ask about getting an organized group to use public-owned lands and seeing if it can be done, either through an existing club or founding a new one.

CASE IN POINT: I spotted a nearly ideal field next to the waste management center in Newmarket, engaged the regional property people (field is owned by York Region) and found out what it would take to get the use of the property. Guess what their response was: sure, can you put together a plan for the site for us to review and we can get back to you with a fee for usage. Turned out that the basic plan was accepted and they came up with $600 a year for rental on the flying field with permission to overfly the rest of the the property.

What I didn't have at the time was people willing to put up $100 or $60 to get the club going.

BTW, if you figured out where the property is, the flying field would have been in about 15 meters west from the turnaround and the runway running north-south and looking west. This puts the York Region depot to your back, the recycling dept about 200 meters to your south, the garbage plant the same distance to the west and farmland to the north. An afternoon's work with a Bushmaster and a mower and you'd have a start on a really good runway.

Any park flyer has more than enough room, EDF and anything in a large size would find themselves doing turns every 20 or less. Anything over a .45 motor would be toruchy.

If anyone want to pursue the field, go right ahead.

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