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Old 03-13-2010, 04:18 PM   #41
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I cannot believe the unnecessary disrespect shown here towards fellow-modellers who want to voice their concern, Iím out.
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Exactly what disrespect is being shown to you?

You see the main problem I have with the internet is that people want to express their opinions, and then want anyone who disagrees to shut up? Don't leave, contribute and discuss. But play fair.

I asked one very specific, very easy question.... exactly what is Jeremy doing wrong?

No one gave me an answer yet that is satisfactory. A lot of "but he might..." and "he could" but I say that can be said about your F104, or my sport model jets, or pretty much anything powered by a turbine today.

WHy can't you guys talk and discuss and even argue in a way that makes some sense... its just spurt out a few statements, nothing to back then up and then cry foul.

I am all for safety, and anyone... ANYONE who has flown with me, and knows me knows that. I dont condone stupidity, and unsafe practices.

However, jumping to conclusions and accusing a fellow jet modeler that he is somehow going to jeopordise our hobby is unfair, and without merit - simply because he has bought a larger engine.

If you want to keep this portion of the hobby safe, attend the jet rally's, fun fly's and other events where people fly jets - and maintain a good relations with others. WHen you see someone doing something unsafe, suggest a better way to do it. Doesnt that make more sense than slagging an experienced flyer who has an excellent track record?

Why dont you all re read his first post..."After much discussion with Tom Cook, as well as others who have built Firebirds" that sounds like a guy doing his homework. Like Jeremy said, I doubt HIGHLY he wants something that is unsafe, and unable to handle the power the engine is capable of producing.

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Old 03-13-2010, 04:26 PM   #42
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Stick around Andrew.
Many of us enjoy reading your posts.
Your input has been very valuable to many jet model neophytes.
You not only have a rare, practical way of looking at subjects - you have real time experience.

As a modeler that has been flying R/C helis since 1976, multi time NATS heli award winner, flying jets since 1981, turbines since 1996 - I still learn from modelers like you. Don't let a couple of " arm chair " wannabees spoil your day.

Know your comments are read and agreed with by many of us.

Its a nice day....I am going out to burn some kero.

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Dean, you were the nicest and most friendly to me when I decided to start into turbines back in 2002. I still tell people how much you helped me out with emails an so forth, and even sending me free fuel line tubing when I was in need of some.

I try and help who I can and of course still rely on you guys with tons of experience (like ROn, and Jeremy, and others) for help when I need it.

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Old 03-13-2010, 04:41 PM   #43
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Re: New big block engine on the way for the Firebird!!!

Wow that is a big engine! Once it is installed would love to see a vid and actually hear it @ full song.
What is the fuel demand @ wide open?
I am not a Jet flyer but our club has 3 jet guys and they are the safest flyers I have met.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:15 PM   #44
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Re: New big block engine on the way for the Firebird!!!

All i have to say is that Jeremy and Andrew bring a lot of excellent info on various subjects to this and other threads.

Im sorry about mentioning the crater, as it was a joke, but unfortunately it wasnt taken as such, but I would have to be another person to say, that Jeremy and Andrew are definately needed and liked on these forums.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:44 PM   #45
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Re: New big block engine on the way for the Firebird!!!

Holy Crap thought this only happened on US forums...I just love it when people try and ruin your day on a hobby forum. Well im bulding jet too maybe i should put a cox .049 on it to be safe Here Jeremy this is my Eurofighter in progress
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:21 PM   #46
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Re: New big block engine on the way for the Firebird!!!

what the hell is wrong with the people on this forum , Jer was just trying to share his excitment about a new toy and is within in the MAAC rules and a very safe pilot , so I say let him do as he sees fit and mind your own business if you dont like it . I
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:44 PM   #47
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I cannot believe the unnecessary disrespect shown here towards fellow-modellers who want to voice their concern, Iím out.

Wow. This thread went to crap faster than Jeremy's jet can go!

The disrespect was shown when someone decided to jump in and start voicing their opinion that another modeler shouldn't have such a fast jet. Unbelievable.

Yes, it is capable of making a crater. So is any giant scale gasser, as is a number of smaller glow craft! If you get nailed by any one of these craft, the potential for death is there!

I just don't get it. Very experienced turbine pilot gets himself a nice jet and people start doing the safety dance!
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:53 PM   #48
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Here is a picture of my big block Habu that I'm working on, I'll bring it to Princeton, It's a Mastercraft Special Edition compliments of PauldD
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Re: New big block engine on the way for the Firebird!!!

Uh oh, Angus just gave me an idea. Well its not my idea. but Angus didnt mention any copyrights, so heres to another foamie kero burner. Someone has to do this. Maybe Marc can put his kolibri in one
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Re: New big block engine on the way for the Firebird!!!

The Firebird was designed around the Olympus, so really am I doing anything outside of the ordinary? The design has been flown for 10 years with everything from an AMT Pegasus, to AMT Olympus, Simjet Nexus, Jetcat P180, P200, Merlin 160 etc.

What really amazes me, is that there are JET modelers in here making comments that are uncalled for. Guys are concerned about a turbine powered jet flying at 300mph. I get that, would the same concern be shown if I was posting about a new Giant scale Unlimited racer that is capable of 260mph with a 32" prop up front weighing more than my Firebird will? In the event of a crash, kinetic energy is a result of speed and weight, engine type makes no difference. I'm no physics major, actually, I never took any physics courses in my life, but it only takes common sense to know that if a turbine powered aircraft that weighs 20 lbs hits the dirt at 200mph, the resulting damage will be the same as a 20lbs prop plane hitting the dirt at 200mph. It will be less than a 16lb dynamic slope glider hitting the ground at 400mph though.
What I see on the forums, is a large number of people who will make comments in a thread about a jet, that they would never make if it was a prop plane.
Like I say, I could just as easily go out and buy a giant scale unlimited racer, and go fly it nearly as fast as the Firebird will go.
I could be one of those guys that flies a 50% Edge with a 40" prop and hovers it inches from the ground, 10 feet from the flight line too. But those threads get all the "wow, cool, nice plane, what a great pilot, etc". As soon as it's a turbine jet, some guys seem to get their panties in a wad and start throwing out the "you're endangering the hobby, MAAC blah blah blah etc etc etc."

Andrew asked what rules I'm breaking, I'd really like somebody to answer that question as well.

Putting the engine that is recommended for the airframe I'm building into it and somehow that's wrong..... wow.... Where are you guys to complain when somebody posts about their Flash with a P160, or a Kangaroo or Rookie with a P120 or bigger?

I really don't get it.

To all of you who understand why I posted this thread, and who have been supportive, thank you, it's nice to know that there are some people that get it..........
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