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Old 12-23-2010, 02:43 AM   #31
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Whats wrong with the Align stuff?.Sure its not a Logo but for the type of flying that your doing Ben,you will probably never wear anything out..More importantly you can purchase parts for these anywhere in the lower mainland for a very reasonable price
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:26 AM   #32
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Align would work well for me I have more things to fit one and because the clones are copies I could work with align better. I do think for me local is the way to go as far as parts buying is concerned. Yes I would not be hard on it because I can't fly them so they look like a ruptured Dragonfly. Thanks XV Townboy.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:20 AM   #33
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Nothing wrong with Align at all, they make a great product.

I just don't believe that they're the best out there as some would have you believe. Ben had asked at one point (either in this thread or another) what the most economical route would be, and based on information and research that others have done - Align is one of the most expensive options to repair. I believe that crash cost comparison chart speaks for itself.... a HF forum member that goes by the handle "Slyster" deserves the credit for building that information based on input from the forum members.

Now, that said, if you look at it short term, Ben already has many Align parts on his HK.

In the end, Ben needs to do the research himself, and form his own opinions. I like to compare rc helis to snowboards, in the sense that there is a make/model to suit an individual persons needs, just they need to go check a few of them out.

My recommendation is to have a look around at all of the major brands (Compass, Protos, Outrage, etc) and see what the forums are saying about them (Don't ask either or almost everyone will tell you they're the best thing since sliced bread! LOL!) - and form your own opinion based on cost to repair, quality of products, how well the manufacture listens to its customers, simplicity of parts (less parts = cheaper to repair ... this is why the Protos, Compass and Outrage are so cost effective), design features, and whatever else you think is important to you.

Don't let anyone tell you parts availability at your LHS is an issue either. Any good pilot worth their salt has spares on hand so that if they crash on the weekend - they are not down until Monday when their store reopens. In this day and age with the internet - parts are always available for all brands.

My final bit of advice is to put the initial outset cost to the very end of the list and use it only as the final factor if necessary.

Good luck - and whatever you decide to get - be sure to share and take lots of photos and vids!!!

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Old 12-23-2010, 04:54 PM   #34
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One does not need a Rolls Royce or a Ferrari to happily convey him from point A to point B. But everyone needs a vehicle that is user friendly, does not need parts that need to be re-engineered or remanufactured or substituted in order to insure it is a dependable, pleasant form of transportation, and does not take much maintenence to keep it doing so.

Most major helicopter brands who heve been around for over 15 years (e.g. Hirobo, JR, Century, Mikado, MinAIr, Align) have learned that the Hobby Shops will not want to carry their products if the customers who buy them, find them difficult to build, set-up or maintain. They do not want to spend unwarranted time continually solving such issues.

They know that most of their customer would not be satisfied with a heli that needs much maintenance, that is quirky to set up, or that may need parts from other helis to be dependable etc.

They also know that 80% of the flyers out there will not be into the most extreme 3D, as many know that they may not have the skills or desire for it. But ALL will appreciate something that is easy to build, that can easily be setup for a hands free hover (right side up or inverted), easy to tune for many different types and style of flight, and require little, to no maintenance over hundreds of flights over many years.

Consequently anyone can find such helis, at very reasonable costs, that would more then satisfy the needed criteria, without having to buy the Rolls Royce or Ferrari version of a helicopter.

When you consider your helicopter as a complete package, with motor/ESC or engine/muffler, radio, servos, gyro, battery pack, etc. you will notice that the cost of the heli, in the total package, is not where most of your funds will be allocated. So if a clone heli is $150.00 and a good one is $270.00, that $120.00 difference, when considered against the complete package, is really a relatively small percentage. Considering how it will probably guarantee you success from the get-go, then it is well worth it IMHO.

Most people will be happy with a good car from most major manufacturers, and do not need their top of the line, but would not be very happy with one from some obscure brand of car manufaturer that could be mail ordered from that same manufactuere, who is not capable of supporting the car properly. So why do so with a heli if you do not have to?
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