[stegl]

Maybe I am missing something but I don't really see or understand the failsafe thing at all when you have to turn on either unit or off, in a particular order to make things work right.... I would think it would frustrate the user more and increase the chance of using an incorrect airplane if using more than one ? I thought that Spektrum advertised that it had "fail-safe" built in so that only one programmed airplane would only work with a specific airplane's receiver and that the transmitter had to be physically changed ?
Oh well I only plan on using this indoors with my "toy" foamies so not a big problem and will use my main radio for bigger outdoor stuff with non of the probems.

Anyways thanks for the help guys.

[davidmc36]

Originally Posted by stegl

Got one of those DX6i transmitters and wonder why it unbinds when transmitter happens to get turned off before the receiver. Happens all too often with my little indoor "toy' airplane. Also sometimes happens when receiver turned on befor transmitter.

Pretty fustrating but thank goodness I am not using any regular Spektrum receivers needing a bind plug. The bind and fly bind up easier.

OK, hang on here. You are talking about those little airplanes with the built in "brick" rather than a regular Rx that takes a bind plug?

Different process of course for binding.

Some quoted text:

"Prior to each flight, you should ensure that you power on your transmitter and wait
about five seconds before you plug the flight battery into the receiver. Doing this
allows time for the transmitter to scan and secure two open frequencies. If the flight
battery is plugged in too quickly and the link is missed, it may cause the receiver to
inadvertently enter bind mode. If this occurs simply leave the transmitter on and then
disconnect and reconnect the flight battery."

Do you actually have to re-do the bind process if you accidentally turn on the plane first, or just power cycle?

If the former, maybe if it sits waiting too long for a bind signal from the Tx it could lose bind (I'm not sure about that though)

If the latter then that would be normal.

Regardless, any time the Rx is not receiving a valid signal it should cut power to the motor, whether it was switched on first or the Tx was switched off first (or it lost contact for some other reason).

I just tried fiddling around with my mSR and plugged it in a couple times with no Tx on. Twice I waited for it to go into bind mode and let it flash for 15 or 20 seconds. Once I turned on the Tx for 10 seconds and then back off again without doing bind mode. Then I did it the right way and the heli is still bound with the Tx. At no time were there any surprise motor starts or anything goofy.

This is DX7 with DSM2 like the DX6i and the heli has been sitting on the shelf for like more than a year since the last time I turned it on.

I don't recall if I ever accidentally put a regular Rx into bind mode without the Tx on but for sure there have been times when I turned them on with no Tx powered or the Tx on a wrong model. I just started over with correct model selected and Tx on first and no re-binding was necessary.

Your behavior seems out of the norm.

[Rellic]

The fail safe as I see it in your situation is that if you turn on the Rx before the Tx there is less risk of an electric motor starting before the Tx is communicating with the Rx. Just that brief moment between switching can be hurting.
I was mistaken in My first response to you Len, Sorry. On My other (DX7 - DX radios if I turn on the Rx before the Tx they will not communicate and the servos have no action. When I shut everything off and restart in the proper sequence I regain control and do not have to necessarily rebind every time. I have powered up in the wrong sequence once or twice and lost bind, but not every time. I am admitting to improper power up on occasion but that is not the worst I have mistakenly done in this hobby.

Brian T.

[luv2flyrc]

Originally Posted by stegl

Maybe I am missing something but I don't really see or understand the failsafe thing at all when you have to turn on either unit or off, in a particular order to make things work right.... .

You don't, you can turn a Spektrum tx / rx on /off in any order, it makes no difference.

What u r experiencing with the need to rebind every time u turn on is unique to the little indoor planes. I'm sure it's a set up issue of some sort because it can't possibly be "supposed" to be that way but, I only have one of those little planes and only flew it once and couldn't be bothered to really figure it out but, I did have to rebind it every time I flew...very annoying!

Never experienced anything even remotely similar with the larger stuff.

Mike

[fsone]

Hey Brian do you remember Len also known as Stegl he is the guy who alway's cuts down Spektrum.Remember he's the Mr.Airtronics guy.

[MikeCam]

Originally Posted by fsone

Hey Brian do you remember Len also known as Stegl he is the guy who alway's cuts down Spektrum.Remember he's the Mr.Airtronics guy.

Oh I don't know, I wouldn't call it cutting down Spektrum as much as just being realistic.

[stegl]

Originally Posted by fsone

Hey Brian do you remember Len also known as Stegl he is the guy who alway's cuts down Spektrum.Remember he's the Mr.Airtronics guy.

Seems you have an axe to grind but now I can say I have used both... probably more than you can say. . Only reason buying the DX6 was for the indoor Bind-N-Fly stuff. Can't loose an airplane or do too much damage that way.

[davidmc36]

Originally Posted by fsone

Hey Brian do you remember Len also known as Stegl he is the guy who alway's cuts down Spektrum.Remember he's the Mr.Airtronics guy.

Hey, give him a break, he's expanding his "Horizon's" and trying things on The Dark Side!

[stegl]

Thanks for the support , David.

[fsone]

HaHaHa