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Old 11-14-2011, 02:01 PM   #91
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Well phenolics are in and setting up. Glad thats over with! I used the wing root templates as a jig to set the phenolic straight by clamping one side to the fuse and moving stuff around until dead straight, then clamping the other side so it didn't move while a dab of cyano fixed things in place. Same with the stab where I used my stab root templates as a holder for the stab tube. Beats using tape or making v blocks for a single build
The one side is setting up with Poly glue and I'll use epoxy on the outside once set. Make sure to keep the wing and stab tubes in so the phenolics dont get distorted while setting up!
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:22 PM   #93
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Things are slowed down a little as I had a minor mishap while removing our old dishwasher for our new install. While under the counter removing the braided water line I yanked backwards and impalled my elbow on a hidden three inch finishing nail.
Well it got infected and had to go on antibiotics and missed two days of work, but back on track again. Moral of that story...always check your work area for hidden hazards (or hire someone else to get hurt).
Im now getting the bottom decks sheeted and hope to get them on by the end of the weekend, and then tackle the wing. The sheeting is beautiful and already selected and cut to proper length which I'm not sure is standard for a Carden kit but sure makes things easy. Also no edge sanding as the sheets are perfect as is..thanks Dennis
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:54 PM   #94
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Re: Carden PRO Built by Lee

Lee, sorry to hear about the elbow. But glad things are on the mend.

As for the Carden sheeting. That quality is pretty much Denis's standard.
The wood he puts in his kits is second to none
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:17 PM   #95
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Sorry to hear about your elbow, Lee

As for the wood - Brad summed it up - can't get nicer stuff anywhere!! Every kit has flawless, white wood

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Re: Carden PRO Built by Lee

Ouch, Lee! Hope you're on the mend! That is nasty stuff!

On the good side, the build is looking great! I was just perusing Dave Rees' old Dalton thread on our local forum and then seeing yours makes me want to do another big aerobatic build! I enjoyed my Carden even though it took me way longer than it should have!

Looking forward to seeing it next IMAC season!
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:07 PM   #97
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Re: Carden PRO Built by Lee

Thanks Tyler. Now I see why you can't beat a Carden for quality and damned good looks! I am finding things are going quite quickly and hopefully will have it mostly done by Christmas (covering stage).
I'm into the sheet preparation stage for the belly and turtledecks which are being edged glued and sanded to 400 grit prior to gluing to the foam cores. Using high tack Elmers construction glue for the edges and probond to glue to the cores.
The wings will be not edge glued (that saves a lot of effort! ) since they will be vacuum bagged with West Sytems epoxy at Ted Barette's place on Dec 9.
I'll post some progress pics later on the weekend.

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Re: Carden PRO Built by Lee

Question for you Lee... how do you sand the sheeting on the wing after layup without getting the sheeting all wavy and without creating thin-spots?

I tried this technique on my 35% Aerotech a few years ago where I layed-up the sheeting on the wings with ProBond and let the probond seep into the sheeting joints and then sanded afterwards... I just never got it perfect because of trying to sand on a rounded surface and I'll guarantee there were thin spots in the sheeting.

Many people do it the way you suggest, so it obviously works, but I just can't figure out how

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Re: Carden PRO Built by Lee

Hey Trev when using epoxy and vacuum bagging you use a lot less glue so you don't have glue pooling on the outside. The vacuum actually compresses the epoxy into the sheeting and draws it into the foam. I will be using a foam brush to put the epoxy onto the skin, then scraping most of it off so that the skin looks almost dry prior to vac bagging. The vac I have isn't up to snuff for this project so that's why I'm going to ted's place.
Besides, he's a pro building Cardens...four to date that I know of!
I use a three foot sanding bar after to smooth things out but it will already be sanded to 400 grit prior to glue.
I glue the edges when not using vacuum.
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Hey Trev when using epoxy and vacuum bagging you use a lot less glue so you don't have glue pooling on the outside. The vacuum actually compresses the epoxy into the sheeting and draws it into the foam. I will be using a foam brush to put the epoxy onto the skin, then scraping most of it off so that the skin looks almost dry prior to vac bagging. The vac I have isn't up to snuff for this project so that's why I'm going to ted's place.
Besides, he's a pro building Cardens...four to date that I know of!
I use a three foot sanding bar after to smooth things out but it will already be sanded to 400 grit prior to glue.
I glue the edges when not using vacuum.
Cool!!! Really excited to get your thoughts on the ease of sanding the wing sheeting once layed up! If this works for you and you're able to sand the sheeting without inducing waviness, I may give this method a try again!!

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