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Old 10-09-2011, 05:16 PM   #1
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Tamiya Cooper Review M-05

Two weeks ago, I went to the local hobby shop looking for a RWD or AWD in the M series. I was informed there is no AWD in the M series....never knew this as I walked in and just decided, Iím buying a new car today. I own a TL-01 and a TT-01E and all regular chassis offer AWD. So ok all good, so I picked up the box for the M-06 and immediately the guy said, you are not going to like it. Another guy chimed in saying the same followed by ďin racing itís always in the wall....not a good kitĒ.

I responded that I didnít want to race. They said either way you are not going to like the RWD feel because it always spins out. Now mind you I have always driven AWD or 4X4 kits (some w/lockers). So I took a chance and bought the M-05 as my first FWD.

Building was not very complex and build time was one evening (while watching TV). In my TT-01E I bought a bearing kit and installed it when building, but since this was a new model for me, I wasnít going to spend extra cash if it wasnít worth it. If it is, I will pick up a kit. No sense in spending serious cash if Iím not going to like a kit.

So parts finish was very good as all Tamiya kits are....but wait....steering is loose?!?!?! The linkage wobbles WTF? Already I know that steering trim will be an issue to keep her straight and will have to spend extra money for aluminum hop ups...crap, not cool. I never glue the tires before a first or second run and will explain later.

Once the kit finished, I notice the car bounces a lot just lifting the carís front or rear an inch or 2. Tamiya does not provide any shock shims to adjust the suspension. All my Traxxas kits do so I pull my parts box out and grab some to bring with me for later adjustments (Thank you Traxxas). The front is heavy because of the driveline and motor and the battery is in the middle, so Iím thinking when I go driving she will fishtail bounce.

I install all my electrics in followed by a fresh battery. I test the driveline; she spins good, no gear issues or binding. I turn left, right, all is good. I turn left again and can shake the linkage, same for the right... This is not cool. Now I gun the throttle and turn full left and right...OMG what the hell is that noise??? It sounds like a mini machine gun. This kit is getting worst and worst. I check everything, all is in place, and nothing is loose. So now Iím trying to defend my purchase saying to myself maybe this will go away with a few drives or will be unnoticeable.

First drive, I bought this kit to play outside on regular asphalt to have fun just for the hell of it. So I floor it and she spins for about 2-3 feet and off she goes. The ass bounces like a fat chick excited at a free Pizza Convention... Itís ridiculous and constantly compromises the drive by launching the car in different directions about 5 degrees either left or right. The loose steering linkage does not make the car go straight. Trimming it is hard, adjusted the linkage arm lengths does not work either so I have to live with it...crap.

At slower speeds, turns great with or without throttle. Add full throttle when turning and you get massive understeer adding almost double the regular turn radius. Add Sharp turning on the throttle, machine gun comes from the carís front wheel axles....crap, not cool. After about 4 minutes into the drive, one of the rear rims gets chewed up and dented. A minute later a front one gets bent up and chewed. I know everyone will say ďwell itís your fault you didnít glue themĒ I have never glues the tires to the rims on the first runs of either of my other cars (TL-01, TT-01E) and they both got more abused that that on the first run with bigger motors and ran prefect. Now Iím glad I didnít glue them because I now need new rims and the tires are new.

Kit Rating 1-10

Build: 9
Parts Fitment: 9
Drive: 7
Handling: 5
Traction (FWD): 6
Suspension: 5

41/60 = 68% Regular Road use and fun

Now I was thinking, carpet or concrete driving, this kit would be sweet on a few issues found and think drive would be

Build: 9
Parts Fitment: 9
Drive: 9
Handling: 8
Traction (FWD): 8
Suspension: 9

52/60 = 87% Carpet/Concrete

So overall, this kit is ok but nothing special and not built for road use unless pavement is perfect. This is a carpet car only. $285 is what this kit cost me; M-05 Kit, Tamiya GT-Tuned Motor, Servo and a Spektrum receiver. I could have spent it on a Traxxas kit; Rally Racer VXL RTR with a remote and brushless motor for the same price or added $50 and bought the Ken Block Fiesta VXL RTR with remote and brushless.

So I learned my lesson and did something I never do, I bought something before reading up on it and doing serious research on. This kit will be perfect for my daughter next year who will be 6. I am not trying to offend anyone here but this is the perfect kit for her to learn how to drive R/C on a perfect surface without spinning out. Next on my list....find a perfect surface for her to learn on.

I went to the hobby shop today and bought oil shocks w/50 oil, aluminum knuckles with a bearing kit (4), full aluminum steering linkage w/brace, new chrome rims (grey ones are ugly), shim kit, aluminum steering rod (just because it looked cool in blue) and a full bearing kit for the M-05. So $300.00 more in parts....lets see where this leads...If she runs better then my daughter can have my old TL-01 hehehe!!!!

I guess being a Quality Assurance Manager, I am more critical but hey....it makes life interesting....hehehe!!!!

I will post another write up about the difference in performance, if any.



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Old 10-12-2011, 10:41 AM   #2
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Re: Tamiya Cooper Review M-05

I am glad I read your review first. I was eyeing one of these kits at the hobby store.
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:45 AM   #3
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Re: Tamiya Cooper Review M-05

Not a big fan of front wheel drive myself, nor of the M series in general. Many cars have poor steering including the original TT-01, the "E" removed a lot of it though. Not just Tamiya though. You don't really find super precise steering in the entry level cars, regardless of brand.
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:13 AM   #4
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Re: Tamiya Cooper Review M-05

there are a lot of these that run carpet classes and if you read those forums there is a ton of info on what works and what doesnt for these.
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:29 AM   #5
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there yhttp://forums.-------------/showthread.php?t=30505a go,
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:30 AM   #6
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Re: Tamiya Cooper Review M-05

i have a m05 pro with all the hop ups car runs great at the track we run at we all run hobbywing 13t brushless
here a link to mine as of right now its for sale as i run too many classes
i need a cheaper hobby lol
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