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Old 10-27-2014, 04:43 PM   #301
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You could say that. Tonight I have been sat down with a Powerbox manual to work out how the things work!

Has your lozenge shipped by the way??
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You could say that. Tonight I have been sat down with a Powerbox manual to work out how the things work!

Has your lozenge shipped by the way??
I think its been shipped it takes awhile to get here,I hope to get the engine shipped soon also..we need to get these finished by Spring Nigel..
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LOL don't you start on at me I got enough ear ache over here
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Just got my fabric in
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I had better get those instructions sorted out for you then!
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Old 10-29-2014, 05:32 AM   #308
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Re: GTM 1/3 Fokker D-7

Hey guys,
what instructions are you talking about?
The PowerBoxes are the most enjoyable electronic devices in an model plane I can imagine. I like the quality of everything Emmerich Deutsch is producing. And Nigel, I am sure you got your settings right within minutes?! I bought my fourth "Evolution" yesterday for my third scale Be2c which is in progress.

Steve,
just let me tell you what I found out after having read all about the "terrible experiences" with that fabric. And I would never use anything else after I worked with it this time last year: the instructions for the GTM lozenge are as simple as that you have to be patient (and confident)! Glue it on and water it first. Give enough time to perfectly dry.
It needs about 7 to 8 coatings with dope, each coating with lesser thinner, starting with 60%, then 40%, then 30% and so forth.
After you have applied, let's say, the third and fourth coating it seems as if your fabric would never ever get tight and you might panic because it's looking horrible. But be assured: it will finally. So "pas de panique" as the French would say.
If you wish to get a surface like a baby's tush you can sand in between the drying periods very cafrefully with 800er paper.
That's it.
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Re: GTM 1/3 Fokker D-7

Tilmann, the PowerBox is all set up. As you said they are pretty straight forward once you read the manual.

The instructions I am talking about are from my experiences doping the wings. I started on the lower surfaces and had issues after 6 coats the dope nothing was not tightening up at all. I discovered that Butyrate Dope is not really what should be used on natural fabrics and had to back track a little to recover the situation. While it can work it is not the right (or best) way to do it.

I got the tips from a company over here called Vintage Fabrics who work on full size aircraft. They were very helpful, and after just 3 coats on the top wing it was tight. There is a procedure to achieve this and I have been asked to report back to Glenn. Non tautening dope was used after to finish sealing the weave.

These are the instructions I am referring to and I will copy you in naturally if you wish (when they are done)

It's one of those subjects if you asked 10 people how to do it you would get 11 different procedures

After discussions with Vintage Fabrics everything went very well and like you I would use the fabric again, now I know how to work with it.
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Nigel,
interesting that you got the information from people dealing with fullsize aeroplanes. Exactly this "happened" to me: I got the stuff they use all the time and it worked like I described - just dope, nothing else except watering before you start. The dope is called IRSA, made for fullsize aircraft and gliders.
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