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Old 10-05-2006, 07:48 AM   #21
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Here's the GLORCS rule book http://www.-----------/links/GLORCSrules.pdfModify it and your good to go
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:22 AM   #23
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ROAR rules is the way to go. Adjust from there. You are already running most of them anyways. Whether you realise it or not.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:26 AM   #24
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Well some people have mentioned to me that I should look over ROAR again because things have changed over the years.

I have read the section of the rules that deals with electric car racing.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. Any car I run would meet the standards setup in those rules. As would 90% of those at Sids.

I dont have a problem with bending those rules a bit.. but I think they are a great guideline.

Trophy races - as they are most often called. This is where it is most important that ROAR be used.

1. It gives credibility to the race. People will travel distances and pay a good entrance fee if they know that the race is following a proper structure.

2. You can gain more sponsor support if you are ROAR legal... WHY? because there are many companies that spend big money to conform to ROAR.. those people want ROAR events because it reenforces their envolvement.

3. If you don't the opposite CAN happen.. I wont say it WILL but it can. People will not travel because they are not sure how its going to work. Am I going to spend extra to race my conforming vehicle when Billybob is running crazy hopped up stuff? no... why waste your money, either because it will be a hack fest.. or plain and simple its not a level playing field.

4. Structure attacts people - plain and simple. Some have argued that rules will scare people off, but in most cases its the opposite. With rules you know what your dealing with.. what everyone deals with, no surprises, disappointments, arguements because it was left "open".

That being said, I have no problem having a Start on a raceday for Run what you brung to attract new racers.. taste the track and then get a "racing car"

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Old 10-05-2006, 01:06 PM   #25
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I hate to say this... ROAR is dead. Most tracks have moved to their own system or gone to IFMAR (and only at major events).

James - you have to get out of the 80's when ROAR was king and embrace the 2000's, most people that race at Sid's don't even know what ROAR is - let-alone ever raced under their rules.

Most larger tracks have gone with their own set of rules (borrowing from ROAR and IFMAR guidlines and then throwing in their own flavour). The tracks have realized that the payment to be ROAR approved really got them nothing extra - hence, the decline ... it is a waste of money.

As for 2007, I can assure you that the track will have some new rules in place that will be best suitable for the group of racers that come out and race - not just a small percentage that want things custom tailored for them. These rules will be posted well in advance of the season so that everyone can make the necassary adjustments (if they need to).
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:58 PM   #26
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ROAR dead?!?!Strange!IFMAR and its counterpart in North America known as ROAR are alive and well.Even tracks that are unwilling to pay the $50 for the insurances and affiliation still base their classes around ROAR rules for the most part.The big hurdle here is people don't want to pay the yearly membership that has to accompany the tracks membership so all is coverred propperly.All one has to do is look at the lists of approved products listed on ROAR's web site and you will see for yourself that it is current and relevant.Most of GLORCS rules are ROAR based but they have only just started to run a very limitted number of races with some electrics;or predominately nitro if you prefer.It was ROAR and NORCCA that were in North America and very few even heard of IFMAR in the 80's.It wasn't as covered in the rags as it is now;plus the internet has help shrink the planet considerably.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:04 PM   #27
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I hear ya Martin,

I am not steadfast to ROAR per say.. just the rules make sense.

Manufacturers still make buggies and trucks to meet a dimentional guideline do they not? or is it just all over now?

Anywho.. there was still nothing there I read that I found a problem with...

I have no problem with a set of rules made for Sids... and I dont have to be the one to write them.. even though I am the most vocal about it.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:27 PM   #28
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Talking re

OK thats it I'm starting a F1 team next year...
I'm exhausted over this thread Let us not forget what we love so much is viewed by some as playing with toy cars and most of us are old enough to drive real ones.
James sell all your old school RC's and buy a competitive one. lol jk.

Lets start our own organization "WRC" a little hint of rally, but I honestly don't have the time to be on the board.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:40 PM   #29
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Another plus to using somethink LIKE roar.. is that it can be used to create a national structure as well.. or.. You can attract real racers as they could participate in a points series style race.. IE.. RC-PRO.. or somethin glike that..

What I mean is that.. if you follow a prescribed set of rules, then the race can be sanctioned and poionts awarded to a "series" larger than a club level... i know tha tis far in teh future.. but it has to start..

Let say that Sids grew "pro" enough to host a national level race.. it would have to conform to something other than Sids Rules.. or it wouldn't and couldn't be national....

I really don't care.. My earlier comment about rules were to simply throw down some simple control and courtesy rules.. but aiming high is not a bad thing..

Bending is OK as well.. as most tracks do that for "club: life.. and then bring out the hammers for main races..
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Can you list some rules that you had in mind that you feel must be enforced - keeping it as simple as possible.
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