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Old 05-22-2007, 11:29 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by KyoshoKid
The easy solution to the marshal problem would be to not crash. But we all know that isn't going to happen. I know when i am out there i try my hardest to marshal guys the fastest i possibly can. So it really seems to bug me when guys or girls put forth a lackadaisical effort. It seems like a lot of guy are really scared of the cars. Does it really matter if the wheels are still spinning when you go to marshal that car. I usually pick the cars up from the wheel every time whether it is spinning or not. The wheels aren't going to hurt you, as soon as you grab it the wheel will stop spinning.

I think an age limit would be a good idea, it is just frustrating to watch a kid trying to pick up the buggy with two hands from the wing and still no have enough strength to pick it up. It would be a hard policy to put into place though. Because i am sure to a kid marshaling cars might be as fun as driving them.

I think that people who are unfit to marshal should be exempt. By unfit i am referring to physical ailments such as bad knees, or no hands. Things of that nature

We should have a physical while registering for the race to determine whether you are fit to be a marshal or not
I usually grab the vehicle between the wheels on the chassis or front to back, wheels spinning or not. I also do agree that the kids may in fact enjoy the marshaling aspect of the hobby as I find it to be an exciting thing myself. I would suggest though that they are not put into or allowed to go into the areas that are the busiest.
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:43 AM   #22
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the comment that marshals are there for convienece is the stupidest comment i've heard in a long time, like pete said they should be there because they just raced, and if they arn't there doing a proper job, they shoudln't race, obviously sometimes you arn't going to see a car or be day dreaming or what ever and everyone will yell at you to get it, but when you slowly walk to every car, or just stand there looking at it, or constantly not see cars, you shoudn't be racing,

maybe you should pay more attention in the drivers meeting because one of the fundamental rules is you have to marshal after your race, not "can you please go marshal after your race, that would be real convient", the mind set marshals are a convience is probally a huge part of the problem, if you want to race, you have to marshal or find someone to do it for you, simple as that, even Dave Henry needs marshals pretty much every race,

doens't moto cross basically have marshals? that help guys get their bikes un-tangled after crashes and what ever else, I havnt' watched alot of moto cross racing, but I seem to remebr seeing guys run out and help the guys so they can keep racing if they can, I could be wrong, but I know there were guys doing that for the snow mobile races at the winter X games, both of those are "real racing" and are actually similar to offroad RC racing,
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:01 AM   #23
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Moto Cross does have marshals mainly for safety.

Anyone who doesn't like to/want to marshal is missing out on a BIG opportunity to improve their own driving!

As soon as I am finished racing I get myself to the section of the track that I am having the most difficulty with (ie. crashing, not landing a jump properly, etc...).

This allows me to get a close up view of how 10+ other people are driving that area of the track and I find it really helps improve my driving (which is always in need of improvement :GRIN: ).
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:28 AM   #24
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You guys have taken the convinience thing the wrong way. Yes there should be a marhall for every driver that was on the stand in the last race. That goes without saying. I have to laugh though when guys say that they lost a race because a marshall didn't get their car as fast as they would have liked. Motocross and snowcross both have flagmen to warn the riders of potential danger over a rise or between the next two corners (not to get the guys back on their equipment). They may help if someone is in danger or if they are stuck under a sled or bike.
The marshalls are there to help you with YOUR mistake (not to make you win).
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:18 PM   #25
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we arn't talking about what a marshals job is, we are talking about the guys that stand there looking at a crashed car in front of them and make no effort to flip them over in any sort of timely manor, or that walk to a crashed car slower than a 110 year old man with no feet, or that stand there on the phone, or smoking a cigar, or anything that isn't marshaling,

and actually sometimes it is the marshals fualt, if they run out in front of you and you hit them, that can be their fault, not everyone has good enough periferal vision to see where their car is going to be 100 feet in advance, and if you flame out because you sit upside down 2 feet from a marshal thats not paying attention, while 10 people are yelling at him that a car is 2 feet away, thats the marshals fault you flammed out, even a 110 year old man with no feet can get to a car before it flames out if they are paying attention, sure you shouldn't have crashed, thats easy to say but sometimes there are other pricks driving red trucks that take you out every corner and approaching every jump, its not always the divers fault they are crahsed
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I just want to take the time to thank the young kids out there helping..if it was not for them I would have been marshaling in the truggy main instead of racing as John had one fill in for me.
it was a good day racing looking forward to the next race ..this time I won't be spending almost the whole day getting 2 cars put together and racing! maybe I'll get some track time before I turn my first qually lap.
thanks again to the young kids again..might not be perfect but they are better than none!!!
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:08 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by MikeB
The marshalls are there to help you with YOUR mistake (not to make you win).
So its my fault if someone hops the pipe into oncoming traffic, hits me, knocks me over, and the marshal is in la-la land and totally isn't paying attention? I'm sitting there for 15 seconds, nearly flaming out, and finally get going again, when it should have been a 2 second delima. Fact : There are marshals. They are totally needed. Some are better than others. Often, if you have a good marshel, it can decide a race. (not to say it was entirely based on this.)
A good example was at the last Niagra Trophy race. Abyie and Dave took off from the pack, I can't exactly remember how, but Abyie flipped, no marshal in sight, allowing Dave to gain like a 20 second lead. Dave waited and let Abyie catch up, and maintained the previous pace before the flip. Most people wouldn't have waited, and in an A-Main Truggy race, with everyone finishing within seconds, this is Huge. Kudos to Dave for this good show of sportsmanship.
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