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Old 08-26-2008, 06:18 PM   #1
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Does anyone have a Proboat brushles black jack?

Can it keep up to a nitro or is it faster?
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:55 PM   #2
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re pro boat brushless cat

i have the blackjack 26 brushless cat.

battery power is dual 2s lipos. goes like a bat outta hell. im still waiting to race spencer with his gas miss lumar boat.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:55 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by fuceye snoutcall View Post
thinking of buying my first boat.seen a blackjack hit 89km in the pond today.
so i,ve been looking for as much info as possable.
dave; i seen one at hobby home today bout 300 bucks

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Old 09-08-2008, 08:07 PM   #4
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you should have some good fun with that the thing goes like stink man righ out of the box.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:38 PM   #5
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blackjack brushless

I realize this is a few weeks old, but some thoughts on the Blackjack.

I have had one all summer, with some ups and downs.

First I will say it is less trouble than my buddies nitro boats, and within reason, just as fast on the water. We have 3 BJ26's, a BJnitro, a couple Formulas and assorted other nitro boats in the fleet, so, some basis of comparison.

If you are looking for the top end, you have to go LiPo, and you have to find the best prop for your conditions.

And you MUST lube the shaft pretty much every good run. Big gains from that.

Issue with the boat is that it is prone to flipping out, up, over, corkscrew, the works when you go heavy on the juice. So, you have to respect the conditions (ok, like any other boat.....)

Balance and proper balast is always an issue and each battery selection has its pros and cons. I tend to run mine on NiMh (have both 7.2 and 8.4's) because frankly, I cannot make use of the LiPo power......I kept getting too brave and over it would go which really slows it down......

Even though the electronics are in a plastic box, they are far from sealed. I tape everything. Twice. Especially the lids - they do not float if they come off.

Now, everyone I know with a BJBL has had issue with the ESC - it will start behaving erratically at some point. Mine started to prevent me from getting past 3/4 throttle after about 10 packs- it would just die, then, reset, die, reset etc....I called ProBoats about this and <<immediatly>>> the so-called service rep says "Is it cutting out? Oh, thats your batteries, these things can only work with the Proboats batteries, other batteries cannot handle the power".

That smelled to me, either a complete crock, or Proboat has a class action coming..... Anyway, I asked about the warranty on the esc, and was told "there is no warranty except complete out of box failure" and when I asked about a replacement esc, ($100) he said "they are backordered". There was that smell again.

Anyway, a bit of logic suggested some kind of cut-off was kicking in; so even though I had not converted to Lipo yet, I bought the Esc programmer and reset everything to Lipo, then back to NiMh. Threw in my 7.2's and was back in business. ESC has worked fine since.

So, long story to say:
1. The boat is fun for the $$
2. Think of Superbad - you need a big tube of lube
3. Proboats have no warranty (understandable)
4. At least one of their tech's is a complete boob
5. If your ESC kacks out, try the reprogram before buying a new one.
6. The gel coat and fiberglass is super-thin - be careful with

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Old 10-01-2008, 12:25 PM   #6
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re blackjack 26 brushless issues

rc addict you are correct about issues with the blackjack brushless

the turning ability at higher speeds is very poor with the stock rudder and hardware. if you ever goto the site they have an entire section just for the blackjack 26 brushless

most guys install aftermarket hardware on their blackjack and it improves the turning 100%. from what ive read the fullers hardware is the best aftermarket hardware to install on the blackjack. it goes for about 99.00 us. pro boat has also come out with a blackjack 26 ss which has all new aluminum hardware instead of the cheap plastic stuff.

your comment that to get some real speed from the blackjack you need to go lipo is so true.
from the day i bought my blackjack ive only run lipo batteries in it and the difference in acceleration and top speed in like night and day.
running 6s lipo in my blackjack with an octura x642 balanced and sharpened prop i was clocked by a radar gun at 89kph. pretty quick for running the stock motor, esc and hardware.

i havent had any issues with my esc yet and ive been running it on 6s lipo since i bought it. pro boat doesnt recommend running more than 4s lipo but so far its holding up.

you definately have to tape down the hatch as the magnetic hatch will not stay on in the event of a high speed crash or flipover. ( i know first hand because i sunk mine in lake promenade earlier this summer after flipping it ) the hatch flew off like paper.

alot of guys have had esc issues and you are right that pro boat is playing dumb as to issues with the esc.

all in all out of the box its a really good boat. the motor can handle alot of lipo power.

most guys upgrade their esc and motor to handle more amps . i have a castle hydra 120 esc and a nemesis 9xl motor waiting to go in my blackjack once the stock running gear blows up. lol
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