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Old 02-10-2011, 07:49 AM   #61
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:04 AM   #62
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Just because I support Kevin, does not mean I agree with him.

One thing I want to point out when guys say it will be a longer day putting in another class, this is not 100% true.

Use me as example. The way the series sits now I will run Nitro Buggy and Nitro Truggy.

If the E-Truggy was offered I would run Nitro Truggy and E-Truggy

I am sure there are enough racers that would do the same (in some variation or another)

I know for a fact Nitro Truggy will have a smaller following this year for guys that want to run Nitro Buggy and E-Buggy.

If you focus on the number of heats and not the number of classes it will all work out in the end.

AND you will have made more people happy, made this a TRULY 1/8 SCALE SERIES with every class regognized and grow the hobby and the shoot towards the future.

If you use the logic that until the MFG's support the class why should we? They are saying the same thing! When there is a need they will build it??

In this logic we are not moving ahead. I know Losi know offers a E-Truggy conversion with manuals and gearing specific and they just added a new E-Truggy specific body!

Let's be leaders and not followers. It is not to late and if you are on the fence about buiding and E-Truggy for god sake weigh in on this thread!!!
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:07 AM   #63
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For those of you that like to talk and criticize people and push your own personal agenda's you might thing of starting your own little race club/series, you seem to think it's real easy to take on these tasks. Kevin is the most dedicated guy i know in this hobby and would always do whats best for our racing scene. Some of you seem to think that he has nothing else going on in his life so it's no big deal right? if you only knew whats involved before you start bashing people.

E-truggy is not ready for prime time here in Ontario and the whole Monstertruck discussion is crazy, I remember watching 4 or 5 guys running these and then we would be scrambling for marshals ect... it was a waist of time for the other 95% of people at that races.

SC class is another thing that does not work well on a 1/8th scale style track.

Kevin will always be fair with everyone.

GLORCS is a 1/8th scale RACERS series and Kevin is only trying to make it the best and most efficient series for everyone interested in racing not bashing.

E-truggy might be coming but not here yet. Maybe next year, you can count on Kevin keeping and open mind when it comes to this stuff, lets see how well it does when we have races that offer the E-truggy class then GLORCS can feel comfortable in offering it up on the schedule.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:32 AM   #64
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Bryan, I agree about not critisising anyone at any time on a forum.

However I don't agree about not sharring and pushing for my own personal agenda. When I am taking 3 days away form work and family I want to be racing the classes that I want to be racing.

NOW, I don't think for a second that any decision should be made on one persons personal agenda, however this is a place to discuss so that Kevin can get a pulse on what racers are thinking.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:55 AM   #65
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I too am interested in seeing the E-truggy classes added, but I can also understand the arguement against, it is difficult for race organisers to call out for volunteer marshalls and get little response which delays every round.

So what is the solution.

If you want the class. Build one.
Bring it with you to the events, check with the organisers, and inform them that you are willing to sign up if there is the minimum 8 or 10 entries. Like they would do at the club race.

On that note. Get out the the club level races and make sure they have enough to run the class, AND get in some practice. They are a different beast than the nitro !

I have one built and ready to go. I plan on running at Hardcore, and Durham.
Yes they are a bit of an investment, but everything is in this hobby.

I do believe Mac is right. We the racers need to lead the hobby in the directions that suit us. If not enough people are into the E classes. They will fade away ... just like our beloved Monster Truck class
I would ultimately be looking to run Nitro Truggy and E truggy as my first two classes.

So build them. Race them club level, and hope that we get enough people out to have Kevin (and Glorcs) add E trug in 2012 (maybe even 2011???). He has already said (in his first post) that he wants to add it !!!

I think there is even a thread around here where you can list your E-Truggy build or your plans to build one. It does help show that there is interest.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:23 AM   #66
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Why, for the time being can't the e-truggy be raced with the Nitro? Yes, I know it is a different beast all together, but allowing them to race with nitro, would also let everyone see the difference between them, and maybe that way the class would grow to the point of E-truggy having is own class next year....
After all the 24h of LeMans all the classes are run together and it works....
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:35 AM   #67
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Running E trug or E bug with nitro does not work from a safety perspective.

It can be dangerous enough tracking and marshalling E vehicles, nevermind the fact that when nitro's are running on the track at the same time you can't hear the brushless counterparts at all.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:14 AM   #68
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24 hour races don't consist of several qualifyers followed by main after main.
24 hour races are not limited to 14 drivers at a time on the track
one of the features of winning your main is the opportunity to bump up to the next main. While i'm sure that there's a couple of people who could handle maybe 2 or even 3 15 minute heats in a row, what would happen if they were in a 20 minute c, bumped to a 30 minute b and then bumped to a 45 minute a? That's about a grand worth of batteries. Its also not fair to a nitro racer who spent the bucks to travel and race to have his spot taken by an electric racer who doesn't have enough batteries to finish the race they bumped to. It also skews the results and prevents a bump if an electric racer takes a win and a bump and is scored separately - the nitro racer loses the chance to bump and finish higher. I'm not even going to get into the whole pitstop arguement either.
We've already established that e-vehicles can't race with n-vehicles in our format. There are unfair advantages and disadvantages to both. They've been hashed out before on these forums and theres no need to hash them out again.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:44 AM   #69
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Kevin is doing a bang up job guys, please remember he ran in both GLORCS and RC PRO last year and has a good gage on what is showing up to the series races up to date.
Last year in the RC PRO series racers had the chance to run either a e buggy or e-truggy.
I think i only seen 1 e-truggy show up , and that was at the Canadian Nats.
(Please forgive me if I missed any during the season but I don't think I did)
but as the season went on the E Buggy class grew to 3 or 4 heats of them.
Kevin is a very busy guy and he is working hard to make racing the best he can.
I'm not sure how many know this but Kevin and I are working together sharing Ideals and planning something BIG .We are trying to make Ontario the Hot Bed for RC Racing in Canada, and bringing the racers together.
I know Kevin wants to bring the SERIES back to its past glory and I believe he will.
Keep up the good work bud!!
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:56 AM   #70
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My stands (LOL):

- I am personally not a fan of Truggies (nitro or electric), but if they can fill a full heat (10 or more cars) then I think they should be added in.

- I do not think at anytime should nitro and electric cars be merged together in one class.
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