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Old 11-01-2012, 04:45 PM   #11
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Just noticed your in Ottawa... Dude, no reason to go at it alone. If/when you get a heli together I'll take a look at it for you if you want.

Thanks,just may do that!
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:46 PM   #12
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I've spent quite a bit of time on the sim lately & am finally getting the hang of it relative to a heli, but it's still a challenge but each crash is paying for the sim. Take Joe's help & advice, he's might good & really likes to be helpful. As much as I like to struggle through learning the hard way I've destroyed enough parts now to know when to get help.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:35 PM   #13
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That first video is funny(to me anyway)
Less so when it's you at the sticks. I know that's about how my first "flight" went
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:12 AM   #14
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Re: Newbie question

One thing I still do is put the wiffle balls on all my helis for their first flight. Then once I get my settings to my liking I fly without them, saved a lot of money and crash frustration this way.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:19 PM   #15
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Re: Newbie question

Any decent heli will be very easy to fly if set up to be gentle and docile for training, even a big gasser.

The biggest problem I see today is that someone who does fairly well on a simulator, may find he has a lot of problems when he tries his real RC heli. The problem is that the helis in the simulator are all set up to fly as expected - e.g. trainers as trainers, scale helis as scale helis, sport helis as sport helis and extreme 3D helis as extreme 3D helis.

Unfortunately, the real R?C heli that the newbie first tries to fly is not set-up like the one he was comfortable flying on the sim.

To use an RC airplane analogy, most learn on a trainer that is set up as a trainer, and usually, with the help of someone to test the airplane to make sure it is set up properly for him. Yet, many times, this same person will take a much more comples aircraft (an RC helicopter) and just expect that he can take it out and have relatively instant success!!

Believe me. Most any decent heli can be set up to fly hands off for 5 to 10 seconds (count off 10 seconds, it will surprise you how long that realy is) in relatively calm conditions while it will just slowly drift downwind. And this either right side up or inverted.

That is why I think the first thing anyone who wants to get serious about flying these long term (not just as a toy novelty) should take the time to learn how to properly set up any heli, as they are all basically the same in that sense.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:05 AM   #16
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Phil Noel, I agree and disagree with you at the same time. Yes you must learn how to set up your heli for it to fly properly, but you also need to understand how to program the radio. You can take a CP heli like the Blade 400 or 450 and have it setup to fly like a fixed pitch heli and very docile to learn how to hover, but these setup are not good for forward or sport flying, for these you need to have it setup a little more spunky.
As far as the simulator is concerned, yes, if you learn on it to hover, forward flight and sport flying and then decide to do it on your heli, you will probably crash. What I always preached is:
1. You need a lesson plan like the one found on rchelicopterfun or on Radd's School.
2. Learn lesson 1 on the sim (and only lesson 1) Trying other things will created bad habits that will be hard to erase in the future
3. Once you can do it on the sim comfortably, go try it on the heli for a few batteries (and only lesson 1)
4. Do lesson 2 on the sim, then try it on the heli etc...
5. Use the sim as if it was your real heli (so try not to crash) I also use a piggy bank and every time I crash with the sim, I put money in the piggy bank.
6. And since each heli react differently and so will your heli compare to the sim, I have chosen the Dominion 3D in RealFlight as my starting heli to learn the lesson and then redid that lesson with each heli in RealFlight and Phoenix until I could do each for 5 minutes without crashing, then I did it with the real one, so like that I was prepared for a different reaction of my heli.
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