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Old 04-19-2013, 08:18 PM   #31
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For Ronnieo, nope, that's the scan eagle folks, to us, that was an overblown RC airplane, with crap for sensors, and a penchant for crashing in the poo pond at KAF! lol We flew the HERON UAV, similar size, performance, and same motor as the Predator. I think we had far superior sensors to the Preds, and we had a lower altitude block, so made things even better for us. You can google the HERON and get lots of info on it. Amazing aircraft, incredible sensors. Only way you could hide from us, stay indoors. I certainly loved the sensor operator job. Bit boring for the pilots though, they get a keyboard, and a mouse. No joystick for them! Push button take-off and landing as well, you're just along for the ride for that. Our most swept up pilots flew manually the rest of the time, quicker reactions that way to what was going on. They were more a crew commander though, running the mission, vice concentrating on the flying. I could even fly the aircraft, if they were saturated with airspace management, and comms. That's the big issue with any UAV, any dummy can fly one. But the situational awareness, airspace management, and in the military role, communicating on 2 different radios and a chat network with 8+ different agencies, that's the hard part. There's a great book written by a US predator pilot that any RC/FPV/UAV nut should read.
Really? An overblown R/C aircraft? We were in Afghanistan with our overblown R/C aircraft, AKA the Boeing INSITU Scan Eagle, from 2008 until the Canadian mission closed out. We logged more than 30,000 mission hours, with a 97.3% success rate and, interestingly enough were able to contribute to the saving of Canadian troops' lives. Go figure. And ya know what, I don't remember a single cesspool recovery. Strange. Even stranger is the fact that we are now, yes at this very minute, flying the overblown R/C aircraft from the decks of Her Majesty's ships in support of OP ARTEMIS, the International security mission in the Arabian Sea, again, with an unprecedented success rate not realised by any other OP participant.

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Old 04-19-2013, 11:06 PM   #32
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I figured you might jump in with some facts peter.

Most here may not be aware that once DND retired the hapless spewer, canada hasn't owned our own UAVs except some backpackable stuff. MDA were contracted to keep the heron in the air for a specified number of hours while ING did the same with Scaneagle.

The contracts expired with the end of our active role in Afghanistan, but as peter points out, ING is now on board with the navy with Scaneagle and continuing success.
.....hard to launch and recover a heron from a helipad of a frigate.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:22 AM   #33
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This has become a more interesting thread then I thought.
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