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Old 04-17-2013, 02:25 PM   #21
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LOL, me thinks you're glorifying electric just a tad? Lets see if we can even out the list a bit All in good fun of course
lol no kidding. He's obviously never had a esc or motor go up in flames for no reason and lose the entire heli
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

Nitro is dead, electric is king! Everyone needs to convert as soon as possible. It is a burden and time consuming, but I am willing to properly dispose of your old nitro heli equipment to save you the trouble of having to do it yourself. Just send it to me, I'll even pay the shipping.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:17 PM   #23
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

If they are not please let me know who is buying them as I brought one nitro heli in last year and it is still on my shelf,if you don't think they are slowing going the way of the Dino just try and sell new ones?
As for plug in and charge 6 times most that fly electrics lot's parallel charge 6 packs at once so yes you have to plug in all six packs but only charge once.
I flew nitro for years (started in 1977) and helis around 1995 but I can say since I have started flying electric there is not much pull to fly nitro again.I am not saying one is better than the other , the great thing about this hobby is we all can choose what we like and go out and have a great time at the field together. I was anti electric until I finally gave it a try. Take care
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:31 AM   #24
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

No, it really was that way. I remember how frustrated I was on the first day of the season trying to get my nitro heli's going. All that Futzing and fiddling. At that time I was flying small 450 electrics. That day was an epiphany for me. And hey, I was a "Die Hard" nitro flyer, and until a few years ago poo-poo'd the very idea of electric planes or heli's. But the more I flew electric, the more I liked it. I started with small heli's, then small planes, then larger heli's and this year I moved up to large planes. Honestly, I dont miss the nitro's at all!

But back your modified list, some more comments, if I may:
Parallel charging 6 lipos on a parallel charge board is a lot easier than charging a Nicad battery for the glow starter, Lead acid battery for the 12V starter and NiMh battery for the heli. That's how my nitros are set up. I suppose I could upgrade my power system on my nitros and starters, etc, but why spend money on a dead horse?

I bring 6 batteries to the field for my 550 and after 6 flights I have had enough. (Plus I have other planes and helis to fly, so I can make a whole day of it and not worry about charging). Since I dont worry about charging at the field, I dont need to bring a charger if I only plan to fly out all my batteries. But be honest, if you did fly your nitro, how many flights before you have to swap the battery or charge it? My nitro's wouldn't go 6 before I had to field charge, that's for sure.

Plus on my list I dont include common denominators.

you know what I dont miss at all? the "residual" goo that always ends up being on your plane or heli even after weeks in the basement, even after 2 or 3 wipes with Windex and towels, it still feels goey/slimy here and there. Oil drips in the car or on the burber carpet in the basement that mysteriously show up even though you put paper towel in the exhaust and/or around the motor.

I still have quite a few nitro planes/helis in my collection but I am not as enthused about flying them as I am for the modern electrics.

Look, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm just reciting my personal experience as a guy that used to hate electrics. I flew (or tried to fly) electrics in the 90's and I was VERY disappointed with cost and performance. I used to think that electrics would never equal the low cost and efficiency of nitro. My my how things have changed!
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:41 AM   #25
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

At my stage of flying , I do love the nitro for the longer flight times...cause just as your getting comfortable with a practice session on a specific manuever... with Lipo you would have to set it down and replace the pack...with nitro I just like that extra 2-3 min extra ...

Also I believe that nitro teaches better collective management, as it gives you very clear feedback when you are not managing your collective properly.. you can hear it and feel it more... just my opinion... but with more modern changes and a little more time we can see longer flight times with more efficient power sources, motors and ESC's...

All the input is excellent folks! Kinda gives a nice perspective from different viewpoints !
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

Which ever you like. I have a new 600 e and a new .50 nitro , flew them both, both fly awesome. The electric is cheaper to fly , the power is almost identical. The cleanup is minimal, try some nitro cleaner it works great. I grab a nitro and an electric to go out and fly. We went out last weekend I logged 129 minutes of flight time and at the end of the day I was still flippin my .50 nitro and all my batteries were done on the two electrics I brought. Jeff not to argue but i'll gladly take you up on that challenge of my nitro vs your HV 600 , most pilots don't have the skill to fly a heli to the full potential so there's plenty of power on tap for them. I love the clean simple plug and go but please don't say it flys better. To me charging all 11 batteries for my 2 electrics is more of a pain then pluggin in my heli over night. Buy both and be happy I did. Heli's are expensive if you can buy one you can afford to run one.
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

Was just teasin ya Max. Everyone has a preference, Coke/Pepsi, Chev/Ford, etc.
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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

My thoughts are that the guys that still own the nitro heli's still love to fly them!

For myself personally living in an apartment and no where to store a nitro heli i dont see it as the best idea!

But someday i will own a house and a garage and you guessed it!! I will adopt a nice 700 size nitro birdie with an OS 105 in it!!

Ahhhhh things to look forward to!

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Re: Are Nitro Heli's now obsolete ?

Yeah Keith i hear ya... just traded my Synergy N5 for a 700FBL electric.. and since its the same mfg as the 700N FBL most of the parts are interchangeable... so from a parts point of view its a Win>Win situation... Fly my nitro while I wait for my lipos to charge and then I could pretty much make a day of it... the only batt to charge on the nitro is my RXLipo...and since I have two.. i would always have one ready to go... so what I am saying is you can find a nice balance between nitro and electric if you have both and enjoy them and appreciate the differences between the two...

So I do hope that Nitro sticks around , it would be nice if we had a nitro fuel mfg in Canada, but the market prob would not support it, where there are a heck of alot more Heli/nitro guys in the USA... as that would help to possibly reduce the cost of it... hey as time moves forward who knows what breaking technology the electric's will produce... I am thinking the way its going is more efficient motors and advanced ESC's... and as long as lipo technology keeps getting better we may one day see 10-12 min flight times on a electric heli with moderate 3D and typical 4-5 with hard 3D....

This forum is great because its cool to see everyone's perspective, not saying one or the other is right or wrong...but it does give you a feel for what will eventually drive this hobby is US and our impressions of it... and what we will be willing to buy as it appears on the heli marketplace .....

As long as there is a demand enough for nitro birds they will be there... when and if that demands drops to a significant level... then we may see the nitro extinction... but hopefully not too soon .....
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