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Old 08-12-2013, 01:51 PM   #11
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I have seen numerous spotters watching the plane for the pilot they are spotting for rather than letting the pilot know where the other planes are.
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Re: Mid-Air Accident on Weekend!

Sorry to hear about your loss Ken. That always shakes you up to lose a good plane.

In Scale Aerobatics we often run two flight lines in contests and mid airs do unfortunately happen. According to our rule book they are generally considered "no fault" as flying in a three dimensional airspace things often happen so fast and unpredictably that it is hard to fault either pilot as they should be concentrating on their plane. The spotter has an important role but I can tell you that having been in two mid airs and having seen several others, it is often very challenging for the spotter to anticipate a collision in a three dimensional plane and at the speeds planes may pass each other.

That being said there is an expectation of sensible etiquette here. Neither pilot has to go to the other and admit fault but they should at least talk to each other and express regret. That does not mean finger pointing or someone having to assume blame for the incident, but the fact the other person made no attempt to at least express their regret is childish and simply bad attitude on their part.

I have to admit that within my own club their are people who I will fly with when they are in the air and others that I won't start my engine unless they are on the ground. There are many people who fly aimlessly with the plane in more control than they are and others who boldly fly aerobatics with total disregard for anyone else in the air. Unfortunately this also means that I don't fly at any of these large scale rally's anymore as there are just to many unpredictable individuals and I won't risk an expensive plane in these situations.

Sorry about the incident and glad you recovered some of the parts etc.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:37 PM   #13
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Re: Mid-Air Accident on Weekend!

Sorry to hear of this Ken. A mid air is devastating, I know. I fly IMAC with Bill Teeter and have witnessed mid air collisions and lost an aircraft to one. Wow, does it sting! In my instance both the other pilot and myself spoke afterwards and expressed regret, it's just the proper thing to do I believe. We shook hands and continue on as friends and competitors. Whenever there are several planes in the sky it seems the inevitable will occur. The only way to really avoid it is to stay home, but I'll never do that
Glad to hear you are able to recover some parts and I must admit manufacturers are very sympathetic and helpful when sending broken pieces in for repair, at least they were to me. DA, Horizon, Hitec, Smart Fly and Savox treated me very well indeed. The most important thing is to get back up in the air flying right away, and continue to enjoy flying and the camaraderie at events. After my crash I was floored by one of my friends that offered me his plane to continue flying. I accepted, flew the plane hard and enjoyed the weekend. Now, I just need a new plane. When I told my wife and whimpered on her shoulder she said, "no one got hurt right?" That's the most important thing, now go flying.
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Re: Mid-Air Accident on Weekend!

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What about Small claims court?
Over Model Airplanes?

Me thinks our judicial system has better things to do than mess with hobbyist.

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Re: Mid-Air Accident on Weekend!

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What about Small claims court?
I just asked a friend who is a lawyer and his response was as follows;

"Are we talking Americans here? In all seriousness, in a hobby such as this, it would be up to the plaintiff to prove there was malicious intent or gross negligence. Given the nature of the activity, aerobatics, multiple aircraft, high speed vs low speed aircraft, no defined flight plans, etc. good luck in proving either case."
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:48 PM   #16
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Re: Mid-Air Accident on Weekend!

I guess no one here flys combat. Even the pilots cheer on a good hit. (sometimes)
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