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Old 09-11-2013, 03:40 PM   #11
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:46 PM   #12
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:51 PM   #13
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Re: Crossing the border

Hi Chris, there are a number of planes that are shipped in boxes considered "oversize" and not deliverable to Canada. When I bought my first Sebart Mig29 {used and therefore with wings glued on} I had to get a workmate in Dallas to cut the wings off with her best kitchen knife so that it would fit in a "deliverable to Canada" box. It's really a case of finding a way to make things work. I also have a thing about denying UPS there hostage fees at the border but that's just me.

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Old 09-11-2013, 05:27 PM   #14
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A couple of other thoughts. Some US companies only use the dreaded UPS or perhaps FedEx and won't ship USPS. If you want to avoid the hugely inflated brokerage fees then shipping to a depot like CBI and going across and picking up the parcel makes sense. Also, as has already been pointed out, USPS has size limitations and many large planes exceed what USPS will carry.

Also may make a difference re speed. If you need something like new wings for a large plane and don't want to wait weeks for the package to clear CBSA customs exam then quick shipping to at US drop point and then picking it up can mean you get your purchase a week or two quicker.

Yes CBI does charge oversize fees for large packages but they also will hold your packages for weeks until you pick them up. They encourage people not to leave things more than a month just because they have a large volume and having to store things indefinitely takes up space.

For specific situations I find CBI in Niagara Falls, NY provides a terrific service and they are really nice folks whose business depends on Canadians. I bring all my large planes up through them now and they have always treated me great. They are also a UPS depot and I have actually shipped packages to other parts in the US through them, for instance if I had a damaged engine that I needed a quick turn around on or a transmitter that needed a quick repair. Far faster than shipping from Canada. And often cheaper.

I happen to use CBI because of my proximity to Niagara but admittedly it is an hour and a half drive each way. There are similar depots providing this service in other locations across the border.

Re the border and customs, yes, having to pay tax on shipping always pisses me off but I have to say that I usually just state a value and I have never had anyone actually look at an invoice, they have always done their calculation based on the number I offer them. That has been my experience.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:20 PM   #15
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Everything Bill says. I find it's just way cheaper and faster to ship to the U.S. + I fill up with gas while I am there. It's usually .15-.20 cents cheaper a liter.
Whatever you do bring your invoice, it makes life way easier and I have never been charged GST/PST on shipping.
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:39 AM   #16
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On a trip I picked up a side mirror shipped from Rockauto for $40 (Canada about $200), installed in Utah for $40 (Canada over $100). Tires for the car $400US versus 50% more in Canada, same brand same tire.
I sometimes make a mini-holiday with a trip to the US. 2x$60 hotel off-season free hot breakfast (Canada never less than $100 each night no breakfast). Power supplies and Chargers from Hobby King US to US pickup sometimes about $7 shipping versus $30 from China to Canada. Gas $3.79 US gal versus $4.90(3.78 litres).
Just got some four strokes NIB for much much less than the price in Canada and will need to pick them up on my next trip.

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Old 10-03-2013, 03:10 AM   #17
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A few years ago I ordered a plane from Nitro Planes, It was around $130.00 . It never arrived as the owner cancelled the order. The shipping ,bondsman and related duties came over $300.00 mostly because of oversize. Had it shipped to a flying friend in a bordering state and went to pick it up. When I crossed the border going down I stopped at Cdn. customs to find what groceries I could bring back and about the plane? When I picked up the plane there was no invoice and I knew there was trouble coming. Went back to customs and told the agent I had no invoice for the plane, unless it was in the box. We opened the box, nothing. But I had a RC Models mag. and it had the price in it. The same as I told them, so after a brief talk between two agents I paid GST and was let into Canada. Cost of trip was gas for 250 miles round trip. Suggest stopping at customs on way down and make an inquiry about anything if there is time and they are not busy. The last plane I brought back I went in and told customs I was going for a plane and wanted to know the duties it cost $300.00 they gave me a total and I left. When I came back customs asked "How much did you spend in USA today" I told him around $60.00 meals and gas. I was let through with no fees. LUCKY DAY
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:04 PM   #18
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Tommy, having a magazine with the ad for what you're bringing back is a sure-fire way of not having the customs staff make a SWAG or guestimate as to the value of the purchase. Did that on my last trip to the UK -- picked up a kit at the South East Model Center that was featured in their ad in a UK magazine. "I thought it would have been much more" was their response on seeing the ad.

Less so is doing eBay auctions. Is the printed copy of the page a fake or not...

I did one eBay purchase for $75 and found out that it had been evaluated as $500 as there was no declaration of value, only what it was. My mistake was refusing to accept the parcel, thinking that it would go back to sender. MY aunt who worked in the post office said that I should have paid the duty and taxes, then appealed and waited for the refund. Was out the price of the kit and shipping with nothing to show for it and no recourse through PayPal as I'd refused the package when delivered.
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Old 10-04-2013, 04:33 AM   #19
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You produce an invoice by printing off your paypal or even just the listing related to the deal. Haven't had a problem yet. The receiver in the states strongly suggests you print your invoice before coming into the USA because a lot of packages don't contain one.
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A heads up on another aspect of crossing the border (Canada into the States). I'm fairly new to the motorhome scene and we were hassled pretty aggressively about some of the food that we brought for a weekend trip to an IMAC contest! Bottom line is the rules can change on a monthly basis and it is best to not bring any food over the border! Stop at the first Walmart after the border and stock up! I understand the reasoning behind the concern by the US border guys but they are such a$$holes about it
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