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Old 11-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #2541
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:18 AM   #2542
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LOL!! But Dale... For under 1/2lb more, you can get into a DA150 that will spin a 30x12-32x10 all day long. And for even less weight increase, you can strap a ZDZ160 or ZDZ180 on the front that are twice the motor of the porky MVVS116.

MVVS are completely out to lunch on that 116... Makes 0 sense when you can have a whole choice of motors for over 2lbs less with marginally less power or an entire class of motor above for nearly the same weight!!
Well Mr. Smarty pants.
The real reason I owned an MVVS 116, Price.
Yes, Price. I bought it with 4 runs on the ground for $500 in cowl mufflers included.
The original owner took many years to complete a large scale airframe. Running it only a few times. When he went to test fly it. The ignition crapped out. He bought another power plant while waiting.

But you still win Trevor. I would buy something else if I was buy new to replace it.

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:30 AM   #2543
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WoW! A bargain of a price Dale!!!
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:36 AM   #2544
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Wow, for that price.... It would be worth sending to a machine shop for some dietary action

I'm sure Mental would loooove to do his best beaver impersonation on it
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:39 AM   #2545
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LOL!! But Dale... For under 1/2lb more, you can get into a DA150 that will spin a 30x12-32x10 all day long. And for even less weight increase, you can strap a ZDZ160 or ZDZ180 on the front that are twice the motor of the porky MVVS116.

MVVS are completely out to lunch on that 116... Makes 0 sense when you can have a whole choice of motors for over 2lbs less with marginally less power or an entire class of motor above for nearly the same weight!!
Yeah Dale! Take that!

lol

I'd go along with the idea that the redesign of the 116 case doesn't make a lot of sense from my perspective... You're right, there are better choices available today.

But when it was released there wasn't all this 120 class selection, and the 120/170 stuff wasn't even on the radar. You've got to admit it's a heck of a lot closer to DA150 power than it is to DA100 AND, it's lighter than 150s were... by easily enough to matter to a guy who builds 27lb 40% planes . (awesome thread BTW)
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Yes Trevor.
I had the first 38% Extra waiting all winter in storage. When I set up the duplicate airframe with the 116. When I found an existing airframe previously set-up for a 116, again price. That airframe was only $450. I flew that set-up a lot. Got real comfortable with flying 150cc class airframes. Then transitioning to my DA 150 powered 38% Extra was a lot less intimidating. Hell the Sukhoi was a big ----- cat after that.
So I have a soft spot for the 116, going to a new mission pulling around a Python Bi-plane. While the airframe was gifted to a 16yr old modeller.

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:47 AM   #2547
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Yeah Dale! Take that!

lol

I'd go along with the idea that the redesign of the 116 case doesn't make a lot of sense from my perspective... You're right, there are better choices available today.

But when it was released there wasn't all this 120 class selection, and the 120/170 stuff wasn't even on the radar. You've got to admit it's a heck of a lot closer to DA150 power than it is to DA100 AND, it's lighter than 150s were... by easily enough to matter to a guy who builds 27lb 40% planes . (awesome thread BTW)
All good points Cory.

So take that, Again!
There were big power before you guy's came along. With your skinny little featherweight airframes, and 3D vertical races.
You don't see my lawnchair quivering in the wind. It's got some ass holding it down.
Powerful, old school ass.

Well off to the grind.
Stopping to pick-up Mr. Jack's Comp ARF Sukhoi on my way home yet this afternoon. Dragging it up on the week-end to a secret meeting place for the transfer, ha-ha.

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Hear we go again comparing apples and oranges. I think an agreement needs to be established when comparing engines. Some guys have three classes 90-123 class, 150-180 class and 200-? It is like comparing all v8 engines together, some are 4.8L and others are 7.4L.


Dale, If you want to put your 116 on a jenny crag diet, I have the tooling. We could have an open mod class. With hi compression, nitro methane, and glow plugs to compare at the apples to oranges standard. Lol.
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Hear we go again comparing apples and oranges. I think an agreement needs to be established when comparing engines. Some guys have three classes 90-123 class, 150-180 class and 200-? It is like comparing all v8 engines together, some are 4.8L and others are 7.4L.


Dale, If you want to put your 116 on a jenny crag diet, I have the tooling. We could have an open mod class. With hi compression, nitro methane, and glow plugs to compare at the apples to oranges standard. Lol.
Wait... there are automotive engines that don't have 8 cylinders?
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Wait... there are automotive engines that don't have 8 cylinders?
Exactly.
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